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gojo 04-06-2015 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyRJ (Post 1856711)
Alaska,
Put your money where your mouth is since you are so certain what will happen. If Endeavor is not sold off within a year from today then you stop posting on APC. Are you willing to back up your words?

Why do you guys waste your time with him?

N927EV 04-06-2015 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1856540)
they were trying to plug the leaks in the dam with bubblegum and fingers….now they realized they screwed up and have brought in the heavy machinery and concrete before it's too late. Why would Delta purchase a -200 sim from China for them if they are losing all the 200's?

I don't understand the talk of the -200s going to mesa. Didn't mesa already burn that bridge in 2008? Strangers thing have happened and I'm not saying it won't happen, but I'd be really surprised RA would contract out to them again.

skiing pilot 04-06-2015 07:39 AM

"Give a pilot a bucket of gold....and he'll complain about the weight"

Negativity, crew room wining, and rumor mongering are what I hate most about this profession.

We loose sight of the fact that... WE GET PAID TO FLY MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR JETS AROUND! How cool is THAT? Pilots are the envy of every office rat I know.

I have worked behind a desk, most every time I've been furloughed, lost my medical or taken a pay cut (3 furloughs, 1 lost med, 7 pay cuts), everything about office work sucks....

Be thankful you get to do the COOLEST thing in the world... not stuck in a cubicle, but with the best view out the window possible and great people!

It ends to soon, even with an age 65 rule!

Slick111 04-06-2015 07:43 AM

I dunno. I'm always leery of people (or corporate recruiters and executives) who say "yeah, we were conniving liars and a-holes in the past,........ but we've changed! We're sooooo much nicer now. Heck, we even want to pay you a LOT more money!! You can trust us now. Really!"

Makes me suspect that they may not actually have that huge stash of candy inside of their windowless van.

pylit4lyfe 04-06-2015 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1856724)
I don't understand the talk of the -200s going to mesa. Didn't mesa already burn that bridge in 2008? Strangers thing have happened and I'm not saying it won't happen, but I'd be really surprised RA would contract out to them again.

Let's see...Mesa bought the sim, Mesa is HQ'd in PHX. I'd say there's a good chance they'll go to Mesa and not 9E.

Lvlng4Spd 04-06-2015 08:12 AM

"Give a pilot a bucket of gold....and he'll complain about the weight"

Negativity, crew room wining, and rumor mongering are what I hate most about this profession.

We loose sight of the fact that... WE GET PAID TO FLY MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR JETS AROUND! How cool is THAT? Pilots are the envy of every office rat I know.

I have worked behind a desk, most every time I've been furloughed, lost my medical or taken a pay cut (3 furloughs, 1 lost med, 7 pay cuts), everything about office work sucks....

Be thankful you get to do the COOLEST thing in the world... not stuck in a cubicle, but with the best view out the window possible and great people!

It ends to soon, even with an age 65 rule!"

I agree with this. In my former life in corporate training and development, we were actually accountable to some core values...honesty, respect, favorable attitude, teamwork, and professional development/stewardship. I suspect that an alarming portion of my peers in aviation would not score well in a graded 6 month and and annual review in these areas. Oh and by the way, merit raises were based on these reviews. Food for thought...

ShyGuy 04-06-2015 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by skiing pilot (Post 1856726)
"Give a pilot a bucket of gold....and he'll complain about the weight"

Negativity, crew room wining, and rumor mongering are what I hate most about this profession.

We loose sight of the fact that... WE GET PAID TO FLY MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR JETS AROUND! How cool is THAT? Pilots are the envy of every office rat I know.

I have worked behind a desk, most every time I've been furloughed, lost my medical or taken a pay cut (3 furloughs, 1 lost med, 7 pay cuts), everything about office work sucks....

Be thankful you get to do the COOLEST thing in the world... not stuck in a cubicle, but with the best view out the window possible and great people!

It ends to soon, even with an age 65 rule!

While I agree with your sentiment in general vs an office job, keep in mind the bold portion has also been the bane of this profession in the regional industry.

skiing pilot 04-06-2015 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd (Post 1856746)
"Give a pilot a bucket of gold....and he'll complain about the weight"

I agree with this. In my former life in corporate training and development, we were actually accountable to some core values...honesty, respect, favorable attitude, teamwork, and professional development/stewardship. I suspect that an alarming portion of my peers in aviation would not score well in a graded 6 month and and annual review in these areas. Oh and by the way, merit raises were based on these reviews. Food for thought...

I forgot about "merit" raises, which is always fun when you have a Jack A$$ for a boss.

gojo 04-06-2015 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1856744)
Let's see...Mesa bought the sim, Mesa is HQ'd in PHX. I'd say there's a good chance they'll go to Mesa and not 9E.

Don't think Mesa bought the sim. Could be wrong though

pylit4lyfe 04-06-2015 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1856766)
Don't think Mesa bought the sim. Could be wrong though

No one really has proof just hear say, but why would they send it to PHX if it was intended for 9E? What happened to the 3 200 sims that were in MEM? Where did FS send them off to?


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