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Old 04-06-2015 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe
Let's see...Mesa bought the sim, Mesa is HQ'd in PHX. I'd say there's a good chance they'll go to Mesa and not 9E.
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No one really has proof just hear say, but why would they send it to PHX if it was intended for 9E? What happened to the 3 200 sims that were in MEM? Where did FS send them off to?
One MEM sim went to CVG, the other 2 mothballed from what I hear (it was cheaper for FSI to do that than have to move and recertify them). Endeavor instructors have received numerous emails about us having first rights to the new PHX sim and that it looks like that it will possibly be ready to go in late May. CAE will own the sim. There is no room for it in MSP.
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Old 04-06-2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
One MEM sim went to CVG, the other 2 mothballed from what I hear (it was cheaper for FSI to do that than have to move and recertify them). Endeavor instructors have received numerous emails about us having first rights to the new PHX sim and that it looks like that it will possibly be ready to go in late May. CAE will own the sim. There is no room for it in MSP.
Thought so. I can't believe the crap people come up with on here.
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Old 04-06-2015 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
I dunno. I'm always leery of people (or corporate recruiters and executives) who say "yeah, we were conniving liars and a-holes in the past,........ but we've changed! We're sooooo much nicer now. Heck, we even want to pay you a LOT more money!! You can trust us now. Really!"

Makes me suspect that they may not actually have that huge stash of candy inside of their windowless van.
Well, that's one way to look at it. Bad reputations are hard to overcome, that's for sure. Seems it's human nature to remember the negative, and it takes a lot of positive and a fair amount of time to overcome a bad reputation. One thing I've noticed over the years is that there's a direct correlation between how companies treat their employees and the ease of replacing them.
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Old 04-06-2015 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe
Let's see...Mesa bought the sim, Mesa is HQ'd in PHX. I'd say there's a good chance they'll go to Mesa and not 9E.
Haha where do you get this garbage. Try again
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Old 04-06-2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
While I agree with your sentiment in general vs an office job, keep in mind the bold portion has also been the bane of this profession in the regional industry.
Says the Gulfstream graduate who took a job flying a 320 for one of the worst rates in the industry.
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Old 04-06-2015 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TeddyKGB
Says the Gulfstream graduate who took a job flying a 320 for one of the worst rates in the industry.
Shyguy was JetU, even worse than the Steamers!!!
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Old 04-06-2015 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
Shyguy was JetU, even worse than the Steamers!!!
No wonder he has such a big chip on his shoulder
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Old 04-06-2015 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
Shyguy was JetU, even worse than the Steamers!!!
Oh, thats right. I always get those pay for a job and buy your way in programs mixed up. JetU it is.
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Old 04-06-2015 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
No wonder he has such a big chip on his shoulder
And you would think he would spend his energy and focus bashing JetU and not 9E. Talk about screwed up perception & priorities.
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Old 04-06-2015 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
Shyguy was JetU, even worse than the Steamers!!!
Do tell, how was JetU worse than Gulfrstream? Gulfstream had a program where they would keep a right seat for a program student that paid $30k whereas stopping them from hiring a street FO at the regular FO rate. That's the so called PFT. How was JetU like this? It was nothing of the sort. It was just a bunch of RJ ground and sim school - not paid or run by 9E. At the end of the day, you interviewed at 9E like anyone else and either were hired or not. In my particular interview only 6/10 were hired. At the end we got a class date at 9E like any other street guy. No seat was taken like in the Gulfstream deal.

Originally Posted by TeddyKGB
Says the Gulfstream graduate who took a job flying a 320 for one of the worst rates in the industry.
Always found it a little comical when a regional lifer who is saved by the Delta flow try and throw jab for those who actually move on their own.

You are correct about bashing JetU and I did in 2008/9. They were a bunch of scam artists who screwed people, especially military guys with VA benefits. JetU went out of business in May 2009. At the time I didn't know of their shady business practices but they all came to light afterwards. It was ugly with lawsuits and Wachovia/Sallie Mae was involved too.

Lastly, I'm not bashing 9E. I just said there were other options that have better advancement opportunities. In no way is this bashing the people at 9E. It's not the peoples' fault, it's just management and what they are planning for the regionals. Some have better advancement opportunities than others.

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