Lol right... Let's move on.

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That shouldn't be in there. Amazing that the book still has some wrong info in it (not) :rolleyes:

For at least the past 2 years it's been taught/checked as the rest of the book says... V2 + 10-15 speed mode/lateral mode in basically one call. It's really helped cut down on v1 cut failures because people are no longer flying the 20-30 degree off runway heading due to TO/TO snapshot until calling for hdg mode at 400 ft 😂😂

Can’t say whether it should or shouldn’t be in there, but it is.

I have had LCAs and other pilots who have done it as per the reference I quoted, and insisted I do it that way too. Also done it as the one-call method you describe, and either way, we never fell out of the sky. A lot of people call for speed mode before getting to V2+10-15 as well, some actually wait until they attain that speed (it’s a short pause, not too long after GEAR UP) and again, we took off just fine.

If you take off with the heading bug on runway heading (as per the company), not sure how you’d get 20-30° off runway heading?

I would say it’s the same as the 10,000’ altitude chime... AGL, not MSL, right?

We are sourcing different materials. The CRJ9 does not require 400ft for lateral mode. Hence it’s not in my book.

You are correct, the manuals differ. You asked where it said that, and I provided the info. Perhaps it is a standards issue that needs to be addressed and the incorrect manual be made right.

I can say it should not be in there. That is not how it should be trained nor checked. Just another copy/paste that someone forgot to take out.

For the second part, TO/TO takes a snapshot of aircraft heading when the mains leave the runway. Lazy rudder plus flying the flight director in TOTO instead of heading bug until 400 feet equals bad things.

Either you're not seeing my dark humor or I'm not seeing yours :D

I saw it. I just think that chiming at 10,000 AGL is pretty silly, unless one is flying in mountainous terrain. Kind of hard to ascertain 10K AGL without RAD ALT.

That's why it's 10,000 AFE.