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PT6flyer 02-20-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 2532875)
Envoy never had any 900s. The 700s from Envoy all had 63/65 seats.
Airways had 67 seats in the 700s we have at PSA. Once upon a time they didn't have first class and I think they had 70 seats at that time and a forward lav, that liked to leak under the floor of the cabin and slosh around. All of the 900s at PSA have 76 seats. All of the 700s here now are configured to 65 seats at this time.

Mesa was grandfathered into the airways system with some of their 900s with 88 seats from America West. Eventually that was fixed.

With Envoy, this would have been years ago when they were Eagle. I might be remembering wrong but I remember him saying 50 seats, and that was the American scope clause. Is it possible he was talking about a time before you are?

FlyyGuyy 02-20-2018 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by PT6flyer (Post 2532892)
With Envoy, this would have been years ago when they were Eagle. I might be remembering wrong but I remember him saying 50 seats, and that was the American scope clause. Is it possible he was talking about a time before you are?

I seriously doubt they were running 700s with 50 seats, what would be the point? The CASM woulnd't work on paper. AAs scope was always pretty soft.

The 700s from Envoy are goofy, they only have a third O2 mask on on side of the A/C so laps have to be on a specific side. Maybe someone from Envoy can weigh in on the seats deal. They would likely know more than us.

flydiamond 02-20-2018 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 2532911)

The 700s from Envoy are goofy, they only have a third O2 mask on on side of the A/C so laps have to be on a specific side. Maybe someone from Envoy can weigh in on the seats deal. They would likely know more than us.

Some of endeavor's 900 are the same...

HighFlight 02-20-2018 09:22 AM

Aren’t many of our planes, both 200 & 900, this way? 3 masks on the #2 side, I mean.


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2532919)
Some of endeavor's 900 are the same...


Avroman 02-20-2018 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2532928)
Aren’t many of our planes, both 200 & 900, this way? 3 masks on the #2 side, I mean.

Yes, the XJ tails have 3 masks on both sides, the rest do not.

HighFlight 02-20-2018 10:03 AM

That's not what I asked. I think most CRJs have 2 masks on the left, and 3 masks on the right.


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2532951)
Yes, the XJ tails have 3 masks on both sides, the rest do not.


Blueskies21 02-20-2018 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2532965)
That's not what I asked. I think most CRJs have 2 masks on the left, and 3 masks on the right.

He's answered your question in a roundabout way.

Most of our 900's now AREN'T XJ tails, the majority are PQ's. Therefore, most of our 900's don't have 6 masks per row, they have 5.

I believe all the 200's have 5, but I could be wrong, too lazy to look it up now.

HighFlight 02-20-2018 11:53 AM

Ahhh, I understand better now, thanks.

And thanks to Avroman for confirming my theory. Sorry I misunderstood your reply.


Originally Posted by Blueskies21 (Post 2533047)
He's answered your question in a roundabout way.

Most of our 900's now AREN'T XJ tails, the majority are PQ's. Therefore, most of our 900's don't have 6 masks per row, they have 5.

I believe all the 200's have 5, but I could be wrong, too lazy to look it up now.


KSCessnaDriver 02-20-2018 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Blueskies21 (Post 2533047)
He's answered your question in a roundabout way.

Most of our 900's now AREN'T XJ tails, the majority are PQ's. Therefore, most of our 900's don't have 6 masks per row, they have 5.

I believe all the 200's have 5, but I could be wrong, too lazy to look it up now.

I remember something about the former EV 200s and pax O2 masks being different than the native 9E 200s. If it was total number of masks per row, or which side is which, I don’t remember, and a quick glance in the manuals didn’t bring anything up

HighFlight 02-20-2018 04:24 PM

I’ve never seen it in our manuals, but I have heard about it from more experienced FAs on SKW and EDV.


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2533185)
I remember something about the former EV 200s and pax O2 masks being different than the native 9E 200s. If it was total number of masks per row, or which side is which, I don’t remember, and a quick glance in the manuals didn’t bring anything up



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