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gojo 04-02-2018 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Hot Richard (Post 2563378)
Pilot issue form.

I use that as a last resort. First make a note on rainmaker, or call the crew pay hotline. If that doesn’t work do a pilot issues form. Usually it’s just a coding issue, and a pilot issue form can take a while

theUpsideDown 04-02-2018 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2563416)
I use that as a last resort. First make a note on rainmaker, or call the crew pay hotline. If that doesn’t work do a pilot issues form. Usually it’s just a coding issue, and a pilot issue form can take a while

Seems like on here it's:
1. Write on Facebook
2. Write on APC
3. GRIPE in crew room to anyone that'll listen
4. Be told to fill out issue form.
5. Decide it's not worth it.

Fourpaw 04-02-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2563492)
Seems like on here it's:
1. Write on Facebook
2. Write on APC
3. GRIPE in crew room to anyone that'll listen
4. Be told to fill out issue form.
5. Decide it's not worth it.

3.5. Complain to spouse.

Blueskies21 04-02-2018 01:29 PM

I agree with the above, leave a note on rainmaker and see if they just fix it.

If they don't, send an email to the payroll group and alpa. If that still doesn't fix it, fill out a pilot issue form.

If all they're doing is adding flying on day 1 with no other changes, there is no way that the "displaced period" could stretch into other days then it's completely shenanigans but as someone mentioned it could just be a coding issue.

If you're displaced on all days of the trip then you'll need to look at the examples in LOA 67 to determine which flights should have been allocated to which days.

Milk Man 04-02-2018 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2563305)
Anyone noticed the companies new shenanigans with loa 67 pertaining to reassigned flying?

It breaks down like this. If you get reassigned more flying on day one which credits higher than your original day BUT have a min day some where on day two thee four etc, you will not be paid the overage on day one. You will notice a nice red mark on your rainmaker where your extra pay is being removed. They are using the min days to not have to pay on the overage days.

Comments?

Cant believe Union would allow this, oh wait yes I can.

theUpsideDown 04-02-2018 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 2563616)
Cant believe Union would allow this, oh wait yes I can.

I can't believe you're this disconnected from the process.

Casualinterest 04-02-2018 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2563647)
I can't believe you're this disconnected from the process.

Wait... Yes I can

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Blueskies21 04-03-2018 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 2563666)
Wait... Yes I can

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Haha. Nice.

The "Union" is us, if you think the current set of VOLUNTEERS are doing a bad job, and you think you can do better then it's time for you to start volunteering.

I used to do a fair amount of union work and I'll tell you, it's mostly a thankless job that robs you of days off and time away from work, but when I thought I could do better, I started volunteering.

If you're not willing to help out to solve what you see as a problem, then I guess you don't think it's really such a problem.

Edit: For clarity my response is really to Milkman. I guess that quoting could be confusing.

Casualinterest 04-03-2018 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Blueskies21 (Post 2563863)
Haha. Nice.

The "Union" is us, if you think the current set of VOLUNTEERS are doing a bad job, and you think you can do better then it's time for you to start volunteering.

I used to do a fair amount of union work and I'll tell you, it's mostly a thankless job that robs you of days off and time away from work, but when I thought I could do better, I started volunteering.

If you're not willing to help out to solve what you see as a problem, then I guess you don't think it's really such a problem.

Edit: For clarity my response is really to Milkman. I guess that quoting could be confusing.

Right, all of my interactions with the reps has been positive. They probably don't get enough credit for how much unpaid work they have to do. That being said, we keep them honest when we don't like the way stuff goes. That's why there's a process to this stuff. I've filled out a few grievances and lost most of them but the reps did their best and were as friendly and helpful as they could be throughout.

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TalkTurkey 04-03-2018 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2563305)
Anyone noticed the companies new shenanigans with loa 67 pertaining to reassigned flying?

It breaks down like this. If you get reassigned more flying on day one which credits higher than your original day BUT have a min day some where on day two thee four etc, you will not be paid the overage on day one. You will notice a nice red mark on your rainmaker where your extra pay is being removed. They are using the min days to not have to pay on the overage days.

Comments?

Here's the deal with this BS. I don't know if it's contractually right, and I haven't read the LOA. But the deal is that you will be paid what the original pairing was worth. Let's say you trade a 3-day trip and acquire a 4-day that's worth less than the three day because you want more credit for the extra day of work for premium. You wont get sh17. They will deduct the entire amount of the previous trip, and insert the credit of the new trip. End of story. No overage. no premium even if advertised.


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