Originally Posted by Meow1215
(Post 2962489)
I thought we settled this, negative.
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
(Post 2974312)
what a shame . When I was first hired in 94 at Mesaba , MSP was the best station for years and years with NWA . Now it’s sad what’s happened there with the ground services .
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New hires beware: I hope you like min days off and not seeing your families. The mock award is showing just about everyone at min days off for March. That's 10 days for lineholders and 11 for reserves. This is due to our management not having us adequately staffed for the growth. Your QOL will not be good for the foreseeable future and you will have very little time off. Forget having a work life balance.
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
(Post 2975902)
New hires beware: I hope you like min days off and not seeing your families. The mock award is showing just about everyone at min days off for March. That's 10 days for lineholders and 11 for reserves. This is due to our management not having us adequately staffed for the growth. Your QOL will not be good for the foreseeable future and you will have very little time off. Forget having a work life balance.
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
(Post 2975902)
New hires beware: I hope you like min days off and not seeing your families. The mock award is showing just about everyone at min days off for March. That's 10 days for lineholders and 11 for reserves. This is due to our management not having us adequately staffed for the growth. Your QOL will not be good for the foreseeable future and you will have very little time off. Forget having a work life balance.
Contractually, reserves get 11 days off in a 28 day bid month, so that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Are we adequately staffed? No. Is "just about everyone" at min days off? No...not even close. |
I know a 28 year guy that is showing 13 days off, and not voluntarily. Most lineholders are 10-11 days off because management nearly stopped hiring for a while and now is hiring only minimally. We lost 46 last month and hired less than 40. It's not overdramatic, it's simple math. We are growing at 2-3 planes per month, but our seniority list is shrinking. It's simple math. New guys need to know the truth, not company propaganda. We are understaffed and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Unless Daddy D lets go of their big ego and starts thinking about the F word AND we significantly increase our training capacity, understaffing, credit pushes, and min days off are what the future holds.
We need 80-90 pilots per month to hire for attrition and growth. The last class had 7 people. Like I said, if you want QOL and work-life balance, do not come here. |
My mock shows 13 days off. You're distorting the truth. This is also a short month.
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Originally Posted by pad39a
(Post 2975933)
This is dramatic, and it's also mostly not true. I'm looking at the mock for NYC 900 FO right now. It looks like about half of lineholders have 13+ days off, some up to 16, and about 1/3 of lineholders got credit pushed and have minumum (10) days off, with the remaining percentage having 11 or 12 days off.
Contractually, reserves get 11 days off in a 28 day bid month, so that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Are we adequately staffed? No. Is "just about everyone" at min days off? No...not even close. see more than one month at a time |
Originally Posted by Green Needles
(Post 2975949)
I know a 28 year guy that is showing 13 days off, and not voluntarily. Most lineholders are 10-11 days off because management nearly stopped hiring for a while and now is hiring only minimally. We lost 46 last month and hired less than 40. It's not overdramatic, it's simple math. We are growing at 2-3 planes per month, but our seniority list is shrinking. It's simple math. New guys need to know the truth, not company propaganda. We are understaffed and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Unless Daddy D lets go of their big ego and starts thinking about the F word AND we significantly increase our training capacity, understaffing, credit pushes, and min days off are what the future holds.
We need 80-90 pilots per month to hire for attrition and growth. The last class had 7 people. Like I said, if you want QOL and work-life balance, do not come here. Just looking at NYC 900 FO mock. 200 lines Line 147 is 13 days off all commutable Line 134 is 14 days off somewhat commutable Line 129 is 15 days off somewhat commutable I didn't look at the other bases yet. There is some truth to your statement that there are fewer days off this month. Buuut It's a 28 day month so everyone gets one fewer say. It's March, one of our busiest months of the year. Just look at aircraft utilization in the bid pack. And not for nothing but a lot of (Junior) FO's I talk to are thrilled to be flying now, and their biggest complaint was sitting around not doing anything. |
Originally Posted by Green Needles
(Post 2975949)
It's simple math. New guys need to know the truth, not company propaganda. We are understaffed and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Unless Daddy D lets go of their big ego and starts thinking about the F word AND we significantly increase our training capacity, understaffing, credit pushes, and min days off are what the future holds.
=12pt I think your overall point is valid, valid enough that it doesn’t need exaggerated claims to support it. |
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