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Rayjay 05-15-2020 03:54 PM

Expressjet just announced 380 downgrades or 55% of the CA's. Sigh.

Yumyum 05-15-2020 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3056957)
Expressjet just announced 380 downgrades or 55% of the CA's. Sigh.

So we can get positive space to and from work now? Nice work ALPA if true....

good news Debbie Downer

Rayjay 05-15-2020 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Yumyum (Post 3056967)
So we can get positive space to and from work now? Nice work ALPA if true....

good news Debbie Downer

Haha, I'm gonna refrain from commenting on the PS. See, I'm making process.

Yumyum 05-15-2020 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3056996)
Haha, I'm gonna refrain from commenting on the PS. See, I'm making process.

Good job. I know it’s easy to be negative lately.

JonGoodsell764 05-15-2020 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3056957)
Expressjet just announced 380 downgrades or 55% of the CA's. Sigh.

Negative nancy or not, this made me spit out my coffee and I wasn't even drinking any. If this isn't alarming to everyone, you may want to seek help dislodging your head from your pressure relief valve. Those poor bastards have been kicked around the industry the last few years like a shelter dog. Even when the times were good. Who was complaining about not flying enough on reserve again?:eek:

Rayjay 05-15-2020 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 (Post 3057126)
Negative nancy or not, this made me spit out my coffee and I wasn't even drinking any. If this isn't alarming to everyone, you may want to seek help dislodging your head from your pressure relief valve. Those poor bastards have been kicked around the industry the last few years like a shelter dog. Even when the times were good. Who was complaining about not flying enough on reserve again?:eek:


It’s not good. I’m guessing ExpressJet is setting up to furlough 700+ pilots or 60% of the pilot group come October. It’s cheaper to downgrade and keep the majority of the group on FO wages. This should be a wake up call. With that being said, KK at United did say the 50 seater is coming to an end at United. Im hopeful that we have a better relationship with Delta than ExpressJet does with United. To think it will take a DOH of 2000 to hold CA at a regional is unfathomable.

Kforekyle 05-15-2020 09:24 PM

I’m predicting zero furloughs. Could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

flyguy727 05-16-2020 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy727 (Post 3056263)
https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/delta...tml[/QUOTE]

Even if that article were true, “overstaffed by 7000 pilots” doesn’t mean you lay-off 7000 pilots. Especially in this uncertain climate. How many training events is that? How much $ is that? What if things pick up sooner than expected? Now you’re way behind the curve to bring people back, which adds even more training. Unless they plan on keeping that group furloughed for more than a year (maybe longer), it may be cheaper to pay reduced lines and not incur the extra shuffling costs.

Truth is, nobody knows what’s gonna happen until we see load capacities in the fall.


You can always tell who's new to he industry. You kids,, need to pay attention to your elders when they speak. I been furlough, and stuck in a FO seat for longer than some of you have flt hrs as captains

They dont care about training events, because there will be no training, other than recurrent. They will cut to the bone, like they have always done, and when they call back,, they don't call back what they need,, just a few guys at a time. There will be no flows, until the last guy gets called back, so expect to sit, if you are lucky, as an FO for a long time Capts, it might not even be worth to go to the majors, by that time, you will be making top dollar, jumping over will mean a substantial paycut, especially after this, all salaries are going to be renegotiated.

Good luck to all of you.

Rayjay 05-16-2020 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Kforekyle (Post 3057151)
I’m predicting zero furloughs. Could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

Do you mind explaining why? It's okay to have this opinion, but why zero furloughs?

JonGoodsell764 05-16-2020 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Kforekyle (Post 3057151)
I’m predicting zero furloughs. Could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

Predicting and preparing should not be mutually exclusive.


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