Endeavor preparing for 170's!!
03-13-2016, 11:30 AM
#81
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Please do not try and project your personal feelings on the rest of us. Just because you'd walk over a fellow pilot to better your career doesn't mean the rest of us would. Most pilots seem to have higher standards and morals than you obviously do. Here's hoping we never meet in a cockpit...
Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
I don't believe this at all. Pilots would be falling over themselves to get more planes...especially a plane of a better variety. The 175 is a superior plane so of course some pathetic 9E CRJ pilots would be the first to snatch planes away if they could. You'd think the crap that has happened over the past 4-5 years at 9E would make some of those guys a little more humble..yet it hasn't. They are drooling over Compass 175s that they wish they had. The attitude is amazing. You assume you're getting 175s from Compass? Get real.
03-13-2016, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Please do not try and project your personal feelings on the rest of us. Just because you'd walk over a fellow pilot to better your career doesn't mean the rest of us would. Most pilots seem to have higher standards and morals than you obviously do. Here's hoping we never meet in a cockpit...
03-13-2016, 11:51 AM
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Delta would be dumb not to get 9E ready for the Ejet with the looming pilot shortage coming.. They need to protect there feed. How may pilots at Compass? 700~. In reality if the majors each start hiring 80-100 an month and compass has 40-100 leave one month could realy hamper the Delta operation..
03-13-2016, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
Oh please, if you want to know how pilots really treat each other, especially from different airlines, try fighting for the jumpseat on a commute. You think the guy who has priority over you feels bad? Heck no, he is just happy to go home and take care of #1. If you lose flying, and my company picks it up, am I going to refuse to fly it, or have a nice line and pay my bills and take care of my family? Pilot unity is a load of horse crap! If you really wanted pilot unity, you'd be for GLOBAL seniority numbers, and every shop would be an OPEN shop. Thats right, any senior pilot in Alpa could come and push you down lower... Thats how a real union works. What a bunch of dreamers... Go read Sun Tzu's "The Art Of War"
03-13-2016, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
I don't believe this at all. Pilots would be falling over themselves to get more planes...especially a plane of a better variety. The 175 is a superior plane so of course some pathetic 9E CRJ pilots would be the first to snatch planes away if they could. You'd think the crap that has happened over the past 4-5 years at 9E would make some of those guys a little more humble..yet it hasn't. They are drooling over Compass 175s that they wish they had. The attitude is amazing. You assume you're getting 175s from Compass? Get real.
03-13-2016, 12:33 PM
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Has anyone considered this as a possibility? Delta cuts ties with Republic. Republic owns the planes so Delta can't take them and place them elsewhere. Therefore, Delta buys an equivalent number of 175's and places them at 9E, or one of the other 175 operators.
03-13-2016, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Delta would be dumb not to get 9E ready for the Ejet with the looming pilot shortage coming.. They need to protect there feed. How may pilots at Compass? 700~. In reality if the majors each start hiring 80-100 an month and compass has 40-100 leave one month could realy hamper the Delta operation..
03-13-2016, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gjn290
How would that be any different than if that many people at Endeavor got hired elsewhere?
03-13-2016, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg
Delta acquired pinnacolaba when they flew for other carriers. Entire fleet types were shutdown shortly after with contracts being terminated prematurely. This left United scrambling to fill the void. Why would delta care about hurting another company?
Originally Posted by LostInPA
Correct.
However; 20 E190 are going to be unable to replace at least 10 (I think more) lines of west coast 717 flying, plus market upgrades off the 25-30 or so odd CPZ E175's out west, plus upgrades off the OO CRJ7/9, plus taking some of the flying up into southern AK from other mainline fleets. Even adding in the new build OO E175's that start entry into service in August, the math is still sketchy to 100% push CPZ off the west coast and transfer the aircraft. And that includes all 39 of the discussed additional aircraft in service, and a greatly oversimplified perspective of what may happen.
As other posters have said, E170/190 sim time is a scarce thing right now. If you're Delta and you have 8-9 months until entry into service it is completely doable, especially when your short-term target fleet size is only 20 of them.
With all due respect, a few weeks ago, the same people that are making this rumor a reality were gloating over the addition of the G7 CRJ7 fleet. Now that one seems DOA, move on to the next one, which evidently is the Embraer fleet addition.
Just show us some respect if you are taking our planes. Based on some of the posters on here, I unfortunately feel that is unlikely to happen either.
Rumor on.
However; 20 E190 are going to be unable to replace at least 10 (I think more) lines of west coast 717 flying, plus market upgrades off the 25-30 or so odd CPZ E175's out west, plus upgrades off the OO CRJ7/9, plus taking some of the flying up into southern AK from other mainline fleets. Even adding in the new build OO E175's that start entry into service in August, the math is still sketchy to 100% push CPZ off the west coast and transfer the aircraft. And that includes all 39 of the discussed additional aircraft in service, and a greatly oversimplified perspective of what may happen.
As other posters have said, E170/190 sim time is a scarce thing right now. If you're Delta and you have 8-9 months until entry into service it is completely doable, especially when your short-term target fleet size is only 20 of them.
With all due respect, a few weeks ago, the same people that are making this rumor a reality were gloating over the addition of the G7 CRJ7 fleet. Now that one seems DOA, move on to the next one, which evidently is the Embraer fleet addition.
Just show us some respect if you are taking our planes. Based on some of the posters on here, I unfortunately feel that is unlikely to happen either.
Rumor on.
03-13-2016, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
I don't believe this at all. Pilots would be falling over themselves to get more planes...especially a plane of a better variety. The 175 is a superior plane so of course some pathetic 9E CRJ pilots would be the first to snatch planes away if they could. You'd think the crap that has happened over the past 4-5 years at 9E would make some of those guys a little more humble..yet it hasn't. They are drooling over Compass 175s that they wish they had. The attitude is amazing. You assume you're getting 175s from Compass? Get real.
