Envoy 824 flowthrough done PP metering begun!
 

All 824 pilots have been added to AA flow through pool. Only 11 selected today. No protected pilots were selected.

How many times must we discuss the difference between being selected for the pool and being awarded a class date? Unless the pool is empty, who cares how many they select? I care how many are going to class each month, but that's just me...

^^^^^ this

Hold your horses, it's butts in the seats in classes that matter, not people swimming in the pool. We will know for sure when the first PP class is sitting in the AA flight academy.

Awesome...another Envoy flow thread.

Started by another company lackey.

Obviously, you have never searched my post history before making such an ignorant comment...

Why is it so hard for you to comment in the Envoy thread? Think you've gone a little overboard. And a Envoy thread about overtime pay???? Seriously???? Seriously?

You're the only one who does this and it's not even news

WHO CARES!!!!!!!!! Geez some people really want Envoy to fail. Maybe to justify their reason for living and missing out on the flow.

Why do you click on them then?

Are people still showing up for class at Envoy? Last I heard the place was a burning dumpster fire.

Touché

Filler

Apparently it's all the rage now

Classes have been 60s-70s a month.

Same at SkyWest and Endeavor. So much for a pilot shortage....

But 11 flowing. Good luck with that 10 year flow.

Classic AA rah rah mis direction

Wrong. Eleven were selected and placed in the pool. That is not at all the same thing as flowing.

You pro-flow proponents do recognize that in the very near future, AA will most likely not drastically increase the quantity of flow-throughs? They will be hiring non-stop from non wholly owned regionals in order not to deplete their wholly owneds of pilots. That is just my humble opinion what I think will happen. Last post in this thread haha, have fun.

The number of flows is clearly laid out in the the contract. Not saying it would be unheard of for envoy to violate the contract, but that would come with consequences.

Assuming an 824 or PP bypasses, are they allowed to opt back in at a later date?

Yes. Once the 824 is finished (which should happen in may or june), we go to 35% of classes. When the 40th 175 is on property (~august), then it goes back up to 50% but metered to 25/mo. During that they will essentially ask every pilot on the property every month whether or not they want to flow, and the most senior 35% or 25/mo who say yes will go.

There are also about 350 senior captains who already bypassed flow before the 824. They will get a second chance when the protected pilots begins, and many of them will reverse their decision and go. This is especially true of ORD captains, since ORD has been decimated.

Yes

Yes

Hire date of #824 ?

Skywest Snowflakes really are a special bunch...your reputation is well deserved. Of course, we are all very fortunate you gave us that expert analysis of yours in what WILL-not may-happen in the future. A wonderful prediction made in a silly thread started based on inaccurate information to begin with. Sounds like a low budget movie plot. Thanks for the laugh.

Good luck trying to get on with an LCC. Good luck at all those job fairs.

For once, you actually posted information that is accurate and free of opinion...mostly. Until your last paragraph. Truth is we don't know how many geezers will want the 3rd bite at the flow Apple. Most of them are content where they are...that is purely anecdotal of course...we can assume that some will choose to flow, no doubt. Either way it should only alter the PP flow by a few months in either direction. There aren't enough senior CAs who could possibly flow after the 824 to cause a huge tremor.

Once again you accuse me of not being factual, you put words in my mouth, and unsurprisingly you are wrong. I agree it will delay the flow by at most a few months, but I neither said nor implied that it would be a "huge tremor," nor did I contradict that most are content to stay. It is not "purely anecdotal," some have already selected that they will go on the new PP list. Also there have already been a handful of reversed decisions within the 824.

It is ironic when you accuse others of having some agenda.

Looks like about 8/04.

Take a deep breath...feel better? Now read again, I said that you posted CORRECT information..for once. Try reading better next time. I'm not even going to respond to the rest of your post.

Just ignore skyvector. He's a company recruiter that's 100% in the tank for the company and his mission is to attack anyone who doesn't tow the party line here. Envoy recruiters will feed you as much BS as you'll take. Last week he even called a 5 year flow for a new hire. Anyone with the slightest bit of sense sees right through this as the BS it is.

You never specified whether you believed his last paragraph was not acurrate or not free of opinion:


If you want to argue semantics at least read what was written carefully.

Really? 13 pilots is many? The list is already published and, so far, only 13 takers before everyone else that was 824 eligible. They will likely pick from this list next week. Not sure how 13 of 350 pilots is many.

How many pilots are in the protected pilots group?

If you factor in the pre-824 guys that are now electing to go as a PP, 850ish.

Everyone hired before October 11, 2011.

You must be fun to have a 4 day with.

I'm not sure he flies. He's a recruiter. Anyone who says anything negative about envoy is a snowflake.

Cute..two Skywest Snowflakes triggered. Did you two coordinate this attack via PM?

The real story here is how neither one of you can resist any thread with ENVOY in the title. I've never so much as accidentaly clicked on a Skywest thread...I just don't care about your airline at all. I couldn't tell you the last time I clicked on any non-Envoy thread..again, other airlines don't matter and I have no opinion. Mesa is the only one I check in on now and then..I have to admit. Just because of the train wreck in progress effect.

But you two..oh boy. Put Envoy in a thread title and you come running like moths to a flame. It's really funny, actually. Tragic, but funny.

Or is it head of the cheerleading squad? I can't decide.

#triggered #flowisthegreatestthingever #youdonthaveaflowbro? #backpocket

How does he know that you work for OO? This person must have clicked on the OO thread after all!