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Boogerface 08-21-2017 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by Castle Bravo (Post 2413858)
I can achieve ATP 1500 at age 50...is that too old to start a 2nd career as an RJ guy and be able to eventually flow thru to AA? Would AA still hire a 55 y/o coming out of Envoy? Worst case, how likely is it to be passed over by AA due to my age and play out the string as an Envoy CA until 65?

On the "Glass Half Full" side...is it good to be an old dude for base/equipment selection?

Anyone putting in a decent amount of effort should be able to get hired at AA/UA/DL way before their flow date. That includes the 50+ers

DilsonWic 08-21-2017 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by Boogerface (Post 2417078)
Anyone putting in a decent amount of effort should be able to get hired at AA/UA/DL way before their flow date. That includes the 50+ers

Maybe, maybe not. Still have to have the resume to be considered. Does he have college degree, clean history, etc.

Castle Bravo 08-21-2017 06:49 AM

Thanks for the good responses. I will be an empty nester by age 55 so QoL/Family life may not be as big an issue by then. Flying a plane beats sitting in traffic twice a day just to sit in a cubicle doing crap nobody cares about. Plus my QoL meter is calibrated differently after multiple overseas deployments.

I'm a retired USAF Nav with a MS in Aviation Safety from CMSU (UMC now). Getting a check from Uncle Sam each month helps the pay situation tremendously.

I think I can make this work, just needed some honest answers.

DilsonWic 08-21-2017 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Castle Bravo (Post 2417202)
Thanks for the good responses. I will be an empty nester by age 55 so QoL/Family life may not be as big an issue by then. Flying a plane beats sitting in traffic twice a day just to sit in a cubicle doing crap nobody cares about. Plus my QoL meter is calibrated differently after multiple overseas deployments.

I'm a retired USAF Nav with a MS in Aviation Safety from CMSU (UMC now). Getting a check from Uncle Sam each month helps the pay situation tremendously.

I think I can make this work, just needed some honest answers.

Then yes, if you have some hustle in you, and networking skills you'll be a good candidate for a major job in the next upcoming years.

highfarfast 08-21-2017 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Castle Bravo (Post 2417202)
Thanks for the good responses. I will be an empty nester by age 55 so QoL/Family life may not be as big an issue by then. Flying a plane beats sitting in traffic twice a day just to sit in a cubicle doing crap nobody cares about. Plus my QoL meter is calibrated differently after multiple overseas deployments.

I'm a retired USAF Nav with a MS in Aviation Safety from CMSU (UMC now). Getting a check from Uncle Sam each month helps the pay situation tremendously.

I think I can make this work, just needed some honest answers.

I say go for it. Timing now is as good as it will ever be and it sounds like you have a good background to beat flow. Also, I think if you don't, you'll be kicking yourself 10 years from now. If you do try it and it doesn't work out like you expect, will you also be kicking yourself 10 years from now? I'm betting not, or you wouldn't even be here asking questions.

One thing I will say is, make sure you pick a regional you think will be a decent place to work for the long haul in case something happens to stagnate the industry.

Boogerface 08-21-2017 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by DilsonWic (Post 2417079)
Maybe, maybe not. Still have to have the resume to be considered. Does he have college degree, clean history, etc.

Clean record is a given, but some of the other stuff....doesn't carry the weight it once did, and that will decline even more in the next 5 years. I remember when SWA required a 73 type rating, and Delta required you to be a mother f*cking astronaut.

penaltybox 08-22-2017 09:38 AM

Hello,
Former Envoy pilot here, can someone PM info on who I can contact to receive my training and flight records from my time there? Thanks.

Grabo172 08-22-2017 07:07 PM

Random Question
 
Does Envoy ever overnight in Chattanooga? If so, from which bases?

Boogerface 08-22-2017 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Grabo172 (Post 2418051)
Does Envoy ever overnight in Chattanooga? If so, from which bases?

Envoy has, in the past, served CHA from ORD and DFW and done overnights there. We used to stay downtown, but now we're out in the 'burbs. At the moment, Skywest is operating the sole daily flight from ORD, and Envoy is operating 2 daily flights from DFW. I don't have the DFW bid packet in front of me right now, but based on the time flights arrive and depart CHA, I'm almost certain Envoy overnights 2 E-175 crews per night in CHA from DFW right now. This is all subject to change, as equipment and even regional partners are often swapped out on city pairs.


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