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Jersdawg 10-04-2017 06:35 PM

Ok good question not related to TA about releasing a 4am rap into rest - what should we do? The company knows it's an issue. Union is addressing it with the company. They are not saying whether or not a pilot should fatigue.

Jersdawg 10-04-2017 06:37 PM

Will Call Me First pilot be assigned standby over and over if that is what's opening up? No, it will most likely stay status quo, it will go to the junior guy.

moon 10-04-2017 06:39 PM

Where do I put my no stamp down on this? I'm not going to want to be continually turned back while there are 2 pilots stuck on reserve. Company gains so much in this LOA while we get what 2 PM rap. CMF CML is great but if we are tossing out 12.E.1 because it's useless in bad staffing, then so will this CMF CML stuff. And we are just giving away Low Time FO stuff. This sounds like the company knows how to use leverage and the union doesn't.

But what do you have to lose. Right?

Jersdawg 10-04-2017 06:46 PM

They believe the proffering = confirming in the TA should result in more 10am raps. Right now they say the company would rather have mostly 4am raps and pull stuff like putting pilots into rest.

Haha the last guy "how do we recall ryan?"

Jersdawg 10-04-2017 06:50 PM

Charlie Bucket on the phone. When will the TA be effective? Four months after signing.

Bigpimppilot 10-04-2017 06:54 PM

Welcome to your new captain.

Bigpimppilot 10-04-2017 07:05 PM

The company knows what they have offered is short of endeavor. The question is what soft pay and efficiencies can they grab now.

babs 10-04-2017 07:07 PM

It all seems like a rush job. Very poorly written with the mentality of we'll figure out the language later. It has a couple good things, but it leaves a lot to be desired.

Jersdawg 10-04-2017 07:09 PM

Union is taking it on the chin big time on these questions now. Some pretty angry callers.

Bigpimppilot 10-04-2017 07:11 PM

Reminder: the company only flowed 25 guys a month when we had part time/low time lines.

The only reason why more were flowing with the 824 was because American was hiring so much and our 824 flow guy had to be in the same class as the 1648 new hire. 25 a month is all we can ever expect because that’s how the language reads. This loa doesn’t read well at all.


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