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enyr 02-21-2019 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2768149)
No

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Where in the contract does it say that? It says ready reserve pilots may be asked to finish their ready reserve assignment upon completion of a turn. It also says "reserve pilots" are automatically released upon checking hi3 on block in. It doesn't differentiate between RAP and standby.

havick206 02-21-2019 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2768182)
I'm confused who are the two pilots competing to be released from a standby shift?

The guy who was assigned a turn that was on ready reserve and the guy that called in from RAP to replace him.

Crew scheduling is only going to release one person and it’s whoever gets the jump.

moon 02-21-2019 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2768214)
The guy who was assigned a turn that was on ready reserve and the guy that called in from RAP to replace him.

Crew scheduling is only going to release one person and it’s whoever gets the jump.

I didn't realize that. Kind of a jerk move to request a release when you are the replacement pilot and the other person just had to deal with standby and a turn, but to each their own.

bigtime209 02-21-2019 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by enyr (Post 2768189)
Where in the contract does it say that? It says ready reserve pilots may be asked to finish their ready reserve assignment upon completion of a turn. It also says "reserve pilots" are automatically released upon checking hi3 on block in. It doesn't differentiate between RAP and standby.

Your entire Ready Rsv Shift is still technically on your HI3 even when your are assigned a flight. Since the entire shift is on your HI3, you are obligated to complete it unless released by CS. Which sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t.

enyr 02-21-2019 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2768243)
Your entire Ready Rsv Shift is still technically on your HI3 even when your are assigned a flight. Since the entire shift is on your HI3, you are obligated to complete it unless released by CS. Which sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t.

Ok thanks. There are some people out there who think you're free to go after a turn though, I got some bad info.

bigtime209 02-21-2019 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by enyr (Post 2768267)
Ok thanks. There are some people out there who think you're free to go after a turn though, I got some bad info.

Anytime in doubt, contact a union rep. There is often misinformation floating around in the crew lounge.

havick206 02-21-2019 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2768238)
I didn't realize that. Kind of a jerk move to request a release when you are the replacement pilot and the other person just had to deal with standby and a turn, but to each their own.

It happens

Jersdawg 02-21-2019 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2768308)
It happens

This is why it pays dividends to make friends with your fellow reserves. I have been the guy who should not have been released from S1 but touched base with the original S1 and gotten myself released. I’ve also been the original S1 and let the replacement call first and be released.

Rsv is a minefield, but if you work together and communicate life will be a lot better.

Pedro4President 02-22-2019 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by enyr (Post 2768189)
Where in the contract does it say that? It says ready reserve pilots may be asked to finish their ready reserve assignment upon completion of a turn. It also says "reserve pilots" are automatically released upon checking hi3 on block in. It doesn't differentiate between RAP and standby.

Alright good you read the part I was about to reference. Here is “My” rule on this vague situation. I land and check my hi3 if the SO is still there at the original time then I have to stay. If the SO is not there then I’m released. Does that make sense?

My HI3 is the company’s way of telling me what to do. If it’s there then I call if they have replaced me.

bigtime209 02-22-2019 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2768447)
Alright good you read the part I was about to reference. Here is “My” rule on this vague situation. I land and check my hi3 if the SO is still there at the original time then I have to stay. If the SO is not there then I’m released. Does that make sense?

My HI3 is the company’s way of telling me what to do. If it’s there then I call if they have replaced me.

This^^^^^^


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