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havick206 02-24-2019 09:53 AM

Reserve pilots can’t use ATTOT at all anyway.

NoValueAviator 02-25-2019 05:21 AM

RSV pilots exist to suffer

dera 02-25-2019 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2769969)
RSV pilots exist to suffer

Looks like ~2 months of RSV for a new hire 175 guy after IOE. Not the end of the world.

BigZ 02-25-2019 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2770253)
Looks like ~2 months of RSV for a new hire 175 guy after IOE. Not the end of the world.

In DFW? Lemme go grab some popcorn.

Any reason the reserve list is packed solid with guys through about Feb 2018 doh then?

dera 02-25-2019 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2770267)
In DFW? Lemme go grab some popcorn.

Any reason the reserve list is packed solid with guys through about Feb 2018 doh then?

Junior lineholder is late Aug/18 hire.

BigZ 02-25-2019 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2770271)
Junior lineholder is late Aug/18 hire.

So you are telling me all those boys and girls on the reserve list are there voluntarily? Upper 15% or so - perhaps. And the rest?

dera 02-25-2019 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2770273)
So you are telling me all those boys and girls on the reserve list are there voluntarily? Upper 15% or so - perhaps. And the rest?

I don't know what to tell you. 176 pilots in Feb bid, just over 130 lines. 3XP shows junior CMP lineholder (BLK 333) to be a 8/27/18 hire, and junior hard line holder (BLK 244) a 8/13/18 hire.
The lines the junior guys hold have you working every weekend etc, the more senior reserve lines are weekends off. Maybe they bid them on purpose?

highfarfast 02-25-2019 12:25 PM

If you're an FO on the 175 and don't want to be forced upgraded to the 145, it makes sense to slow play your flight time by bidding reserve at least some if you don't have 800 hours yet.

OH! And the 800 hour part only applies through Feb 28 so no reason to even worry the LOA that forces 800-950 hour FOs to fly anymore. So if you want to delay upgrade, bid reserve even if you already have 800 hours.

dera 02-25-2019 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2770279)
If you're an FO on the 175 and don't want to be forced upgraded to the 145, it makes sense to slow play your flight time by bidding reserve at least some if you don't have 800 hours yet.

OH! And the 800 hour part only applies through Feb 28 so no reason to even worry the LOA that forces 800-950 hour FOs to fly anymore. So if you want to delay upgrade, bid reserve even if you already have 800 hours.

Yeah I believe a big part of the senior reserve guys are playing this game.
Looking at the 3XP, there's an interesting hump of semi-senior pilots bidding reserve, and a bunch of people junior to them all holding lines.
If you don't want to fly and you live in base, being a senior reserve guy probably doesn't suck much. You'll never get called, and if something interesting is available for proffering, you'll likely get it.

What I don't get are the top 5 guys at DFL, who could hold lines as DCLs by their seniority already.

pitchattitude 02-25-2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2770280)
Yeah I believe a big part of the senior reserve guys are playing this game.
Looking at the 3XP, there's an interesting hump of semi-senior pilots bidding reserve, and a bunch of people junior to them all holding lines.
If you don't want to fly and you live in base, being a senior reserve guy probably doesn't suck much. You'll never get called, and if something interesting is available for proffering, you'll likely get it.

What I don't get are the top 5 guys at DFL, who could hold lines as DCLs by their seniority already.

Number 1 and 3 DFL are in training for DCL.

But I can assure you anyone after them CAN NOT hold a DCL line.


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