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griff312 02-01-2019 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by pat003 (Post 2754350)
But they have a flow and have guys coming thru the door right, a little similar to us ain't it? Interesting how that got done at another wholly owned, meanwhile our union got told take concessions to even discuss anything....IN THIS MARKET!!

Don't we have a "Me too" clause??? What happened to that?

NoValueAviator 02-01-2019 12:00 PM

Wonder if PSA will end up bigger than Envoy. They're catching up, at least in terms of pilots.

buddies8 02-01-2019 01:20 PM

Maybe you all should read psa forum. It's a pay cut for them. You folks drool over anything without knowing details.

Varsity 02-01-2019 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2754434)
Wonder if PSA will end up bigger than Envoy. They're catching up, at least in terms of pilots.

How many do they have? 1800?

They have a better scheduling system than us, and a better relationship with management.

UncreativeUser 02-01-2019 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2754493)
Maybe you all should read psa forum. It's a pay cut for them. You folks drool over anything without knowing details.



How?


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MD-11Loader 02-01-2019 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2754514)
How?


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I believe they currently get 125% for anything above 65 hours. So they have to fly longer to trigger the premium.

buddies8 02-01-2019 02:47 PM

Thank you MD, like I said you folks should read the psa forum and not bullet points from dubious incomplete information.

NoValueAviator 02-01-2019 04:00 PM

I knew the pay was fake news but what about the rsv rules? When I was shopping airlines a year and a half ago I concluded that they were substantially similar to Envoys.

FlyyGuyy 02-01-2019 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2754503)
How many do they have? 1800?

They have a better scheduling system than us, and a better relationship with management.

Roughly 1850 now.

chrisreedrules 02-01-2019 04:52 PM

To clarify, it is in fact a pay raise for most. The only pilots who won’t see a bump are those who regularly used our SAP to drop to 65 credit and then pick back up a trip at 125%. For the majority of pilots who use SAP to adjust their schedule to get the days off they want and not necessarily to pick back up for SDO and premium pay it is a small pay bump.

I have refrained from posting on here for quite a while but I have seen quite a bit hyperbole being spread from some PSA pilots. It isn’t much of a pay raise but it’s more than what we had previously.


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