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12-04-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
I know the feeling you are having right now. I had it too.
FMLA is a government regulation that gives maternity leave. It also gives baby bonding time for the non birthing parent. It also has provisions for bonding with an adopted child.
You can use vacation to cover it though.
FMLA is a government regulation that gives maternity leave. It also gives baby bonding time for the non birthing parent. It also has provisions for bonding with an adopted child.
You can use vacation to cover it though.
12-04-2017, 07:54 PM
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A previous ORD Chief Pilot used to tell pilots to bid for vacation at the due date, then use FMLA whenever they wanted within the first year of birth. He recommended using it at Christmas (this company has changed a lot). Anyway, if you can get vacation without FMLA for the first few weeks after the birth, you could then save the FMLA for when (if) the wife goes back to work, or any other time.
12-05-2017, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
I know the feeling you are having right now. I had it too.
FMLA is a government regulation that gives maternity leave. It also gives baby bonding time for the non birthing parent. It also has provisions for bonding with an adopted child.
You can use vacation to cover it though.
FMLA is a government regulation that gives maternity leave. It also gives baby bonding time for the non birthing parent. It also has provisions for bonding with an adopted child.
You can use vacation to cover it though.
12-05-2017, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
The OP said his wife was having a baby. The FMLA for him is considered baby bonding and is different from maternity leave. You can only use vacation for that particular FMLA.
"Although FMLA leave is unpaid, during any FMLA leave employees must use all accrued paid time off, including vacation leave, sick leave, any other paid time off, and earned time off, unless otherwise stated in the applicable collective bargaining agreement."
12-05-2017, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by EnyFlyr
This is what I found:
"Although FMLA leave is unpaid, during any FMLA leave employees must use all accrued paid time off, including vacation leave, sick leave, any other paid time off, and earned time off, unless otherwise stated in the applicable collective bargaining agreement."
"Although FMLA leave is unpaid, during any FMLA leave employees must use all accrued paid time off, including vacation leave, sick leave, any other paid time off, and earned time off, unless otherwise stated in the applicable collective bargaining agreement."
12-05-2017, 04:34 AM
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I went through this last year. They told me I could not use my sick time with FMLA because I wasn't the one who was sick.
I did what ORDinary suggested. I staggered 2 weeks of vacation for when the baby was due. I DTS'd that entire month so I had the entire month off. When my wife went back to work after 3 months, I took my 3 months off. It made the transition for my wife much easier. I've done this twice now and it works very nicely.
I did what ORDinary suggested. I staggered 2 weeks of vacation for when the baby was due. I DTS'd that entire month so I had the entire month off. When my wife went back to work after 3 months, I took my 3 months off. It made the transition for my wife much easier. I've done this twice now and it works very nicely.
12-05-2017, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EnyFlyr
This is what I found:
"Although FMLA leave is unpaid, during any FMLA leave employees must use all accrued paid time off, including vacation leave, sick leave, any other paid time off, and earned time off, unless otherwise stated in the applicable collective bargaining agreement."
"Although FMLA leave is unpaid, during any FMLA leave employees must use all accrued paid time off, including vacation leave, sick leave, any other paid time off, and earned time off, unless otherwise stated in the applicable collective bargaining agreement."
12-05-2017, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
It is confusing because we are talking about two different types of FMLA. Baby bonding is a different thing than intermittent FMLA for allergies or whatever - as someone said above, if you're not sick you can't use sick time. That's the rule of thumb for this kind of thing.
12-05-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EnyFlyr
I see what you're saying. What bothers me is I am able to get answers on here that these so called "reps" are unable to answer for me.
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