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bigtime209 01-09-2018 07:40 AM

High Value Aviator Program
 
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It appears that the unofficial, word of mouth program that Envoy recruiting has been offering for a few months now to 121 guys and paying them a $45k sign on bonus is now official. It is now being advertised on the recruiting social media pages.
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Weekendwarrior2 01-09-2018 08:52 AM

High Value Aviator Program
 
Once again screwing the guys who have been on property a while.


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AZPilotMike 01-09-2018 09:44 AM

Yeah. Looks like they are already starting to realize that the flow isn’t enough. I feel for those that come with this program though because they will all get shoved down the seniority list this summer when last years big new hire push all start upgrading.

bigtime209 01-09-2018 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2498788)
Once again screwing the guys who have been on property a while.


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Indeed. Continue to throw all of this money at guys to get them in the door. Meanwhile, the guys that have fought it out and stuck with this company in the trenches and taken 2 concessionary contracts since 2012...well they don't see a dime. I wish this company put a little more "High Value" on its aviators that have been loyal and stuck around through thick and thin.

SEPfield 01-09-2018 09:51 AM

The seniority hit will make life painful. Especially since the AA wholly owneds are not well known for their friendly reserve rules.

I am curious though. What’s first year captain pay on the 145. I said I wouldn’t do it for less than 100k, but this is probably getting close.

bigtime209 01-09-2018 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by AZPilotMike (Post 2498841)
Yeah. Looks like they are already starting to realize that the flow isn’t enough. I feel for those that come with this program though because they will all get shoved down the seniority list this summer when last years big new hire push all start upgrading.

Nope...it's just a way to get around street captains by getting more brand new guys in here that they will continue to displace to CA.

crj700 01-09-2018 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2498847)
Indeed. Continue to throw all of this money at guys to get them in the door. Meanwhile, the guys that have fought it out and stuck with this company in the trenches and taken 2 concessionary contracts since 2012...well they don't see a dime. I wish this company put a little more "High Value" on its aviators that have been loyal and stuck around through thick and thin.

I think part of their business model is to "churn" the pilots and keep the relative seniority low and therefore labor costs low.

ORDinary 01-09-2018 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2498788)
Once again screwing the guys who have been on property a while.

aka Low Value Aviators, is the implication.

3EngineTaxi 01-09-2018 11:28 AM

Does this imply that guys who have been employed 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 years (and earning less money than the new hires) are, in contrast, "low value" aviators?

bigtime209 01-09-2018 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi (Post 2498925)
Does this imply that guys who have been employed 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 years (and earning less money than the new hires) are, in contrast, "low value" aviators?

Yes.

filler.


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