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Old 01-20-2018 | 02:09 AM
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Unless you’re coming here just for the upgrade to LGA, I would stay away. It’s a mess. Even then, you can easily find a job with jus SIC time now or next year or two. There’s rumors of mass exodus due to the displacements, you don’t want to be at the bottom of a list now.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JMO127
So I should tell my brother to stay away from Envoy then?

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Correct. There are better options out there with more most likely coming. It that envoy is bad it’s just that there are way better places to be. This HVA program is going to **** a lot of people that hired into off in about 7 months.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
Correct. There are better options out there with more most likely coming. It that envoy is bad it’s just that there are way better places to be. This HVA program is going to **** a lot of people that hired into off in about 7 months.
Wow. I'll pass it along. HVA?

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Old 01-20-2018 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JMO127
Wow. I'll pass it along. HVA?
HVA is High Value Aviator, someone who gets hired with a few hundred hours of 121 time. This is in contrast to the Low Value Aviators who have maintained their current employment for the past 2 - 30 years. In most cases, brand new High Value Aviators will earn more than Low Value Aviator captains who have been on property for several years.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
HVA is High Value Aviator, someone who gets hired with a few hundred hours of 121 time. This is in contrast to the Low Value Aviators who have maintained their current employment for the past 2 - 30 years. In most cases, brand new High Value Aviators will earn more than Low Value Aviator captains who have been on property for several years.
That's kinda crappy. Wow.

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Old 01-20-2018 | 01:02 PM
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Envoy is cutting back on hiring in 2018 and with the lower pay why bother. Endeavor; great schedules, QOL and an average of 18 days off a month with industry leading pay by 25%. I wish I had selected them over Envoy.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Inop2
Envoy is cutting back on hiring in 2018 and with the lower pay why bother. Endeavor; great schedules, QOL and an average of 18 days off a month with industry leading pay by 25%. I wish I had selected them over Envoy.
Abandon ship 🚢
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Old 01-20-2018 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Inop2
Envoy is cutting back on hiring in 2018 and with the lower pay why bother. Endeavor; great schedules, QOL and an average of 18 days off a month with industry leading pay by 25%. I wish I had selected them over Envoy.
Definitely isn't too late. I'm sure you're junior enough that it might make sense to jump ship.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
Definitely isn't too late. I'm sure you're junior enough that it might make sense to jump ship.
I have an interview in February and hopefully a class in March. Just can’t pass up $100k a year with OT and bonuses.
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Old 01-23-2018 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Inop2
I have an interview in February and hopefully a class in March. Just can’t pass up $100k a year with OT and bonuses.
That's strong. Aren't classes about 3 months out? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere.

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