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inevitableneb 02-10-2018 11:17 AM

I'm sorry for the general lack of sympathy, and I'm sorry this happened to you. It's gonna be 4-6 months of reserve, probably no critical coverage ever, you will probably not get displaced off the ship before you upgrade, at which time you can pick a different plane hopefully. ORD only, even if other bases open, CRJ won't go there.
If you and your family can live with that then make the most of it. If you can't, leave immediately, tell then it's because of the CRJ, return your bonus, and try again. If it doesn't work for family reasons, like you live in Dallas, and the wife is not up for a long term commuter lifestyle just explain that with your resignation. Hopefully it won't effect your future chances at AA but I don't know for sure.

havick206 02-10-2018 11:19 AM

Is there much OT available on the CRJ for FO’s?

If you live in base (or can at least drive within the 2 hour callout) it’s not a bad deal given the current environment with forced upgrades to LGA (assuming you don’t want LGA).

itsmytime 02-10-2018 11:30 AM

Something tells me the OP won't be returning to this thread. LOL! Probably trolling.

Purpleanga 02-10-2018 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Cristian17 (Post 2524357)
Hello, so I was expecting to get something else since I know the CRJ is slowing going to PSA. What is my reserve time? What do you guys think? Not the happiest at the moment.

Dude I’m sorry but why are you making a new thread about this. There’s many that get screwed but they don’t make new topics on the internets. You’re not that special, at all. What do you want us to tell you? Just leave if you don’t want to be on reserve.

BIueSideUp 02-10-2018 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2524827)
Is there much OT available on the CRJ for FO’s?

If you live in base (or can at least drive within the 2 hour callout) it’s not a bad deal given the current environment with forced upgrades to LGA (assuming you don’t want LGA).

Actually, there usually ends up being a good amount of OT for OFC (albeit, not normally worth very much) and we are back to critical coverage again this month.

BigZ 02-10-2018 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by BIueSideUp (Post 2524866)
Actually, there usually ends up being a good amount of OT for OFC (albeit, not normally worth very much) and we are back to critical coverage again this month.

That's good news.
I've been told the upper half of the OFC seniority list is getting significantly lighter due to the CA displacements. If that's the case, there should be some hiring in the upcoming classes and respective movement up.

BIueSideUp 02-10-2018 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2525001)
That's good news.
I've been told the upper half of the OFC seniority list is getting significantly lighter due to the CA displacements. If that's the case, there should be some hiring in the upcoming classes and respective movement up.

Yep, for sure movement in that area. I noticed a gain of ~10 spots between last month's bid and this upcoming.

DilsonWic 02-10-2018 08:33 PM

But losing lines/planes won’t help.

BIueSideUp 02-11-2018 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by DilsonWic (Post 2525271)
But losing lines/planes won’t help.

Also true. Got to be frustrating for those guys about 2/3 the way down the list. They keep chasing a line to the top. Gain a few spots one month, lose a few lines the next.

Ijustlikeflying 02-11-2018 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Cristian17 (Post 2524357)
Hello, so I was expecting to get something else since I know the CRJ is slowing going to PSA. What is my reserve time? What do you guys think? Not the happiest at the moment.

Hey there. Fellow Envoy guy here, I’m not sure why everyone is eating their own. You have every right to be upset that you got the crj. The chances of you getting the crj were slim, so I don’t blame you for still trying to come to Envoy. However, unfortunately that’s the way the dice fell.

I have ZERO sympathy for all the pilots on this thread that continue to complain about how bad they had it a few years back and that you should just suck it up because they had it way worse. Right now it’s a pilots industry, everyone has the ability to get what they want in some way. We aren’t living in 2010 anymore.

I would recommend you return your bonus, interview with Endeavor or another whollyown and get the aircraft and base you want. Family first / QOL first over all. Most interviewees at any airline right now can get a class date very quick, a few weeks extra of your life transitioning to an airline that will provide what you want is worth it.

Otherwise you will be stuck on a dying fleet at the rear end of the reserve list under our bad reserve rules.

There’s no shame in respectfully leaving and choosing your family’s interests over all others. No shame at all.

Good luck to you sir.


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