Mandatory age related retirements at the legacy airlines will generally increase from their already high levels every year until they peak in 2022-2023. Anyone NOT applying to those airlines as soon as they have those airlines current minimums (or even a little less) and placidly waiting for seven (or even five) years for flow to take them there is AT BEST going to be years of seniority behind smarter people who hustle, assuming the legacies then aren't so bewildered by the person's lack of motivation they don't refuse to take him at all.

Get what you need to be competitive wherever you can with as little cost to your QOL as possible and move on.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

I wish I could, but with only 1300 hours (650 PIC) in the C-17 and the rest of my time in RPAs (MQ-1s & MQ-9s), I simply don't have enough time to be competitive for the majors. So I'm gonna fly with you champs in the regionals and learn the 121 game with the hopes of advancing from there.

 

Man that's music to my hears - good timing sure is a beautiful thing.

 

Bruh,

Have you considered contracting?. L3/CAT in Iraq/'Stan?.

60 on 60 off. MUCH ... MUCH (!) better pay. Plus PIC time is quick.

Kinda wish I had.

FWIW, I'm retired mil and an Envoy man ...

 

I have, but only for drones, not for any kind of manned gig. Do you think a contracting stint would be better than your current position at Envoy or some other regional?

Also, I’d love to hear about your experience at Envoy and whether or not you’d recommend I follow your footsteps. Feel free to PM me in the event you don’t wanna broadcast to all of cyberspace

 

I see so many people complain about the current flow time and they say that recruiting is full of crap for what they are telling potential new hires. Am I just naive for slightly believing the recruiters? As those higher numbers of mandatory retirements at AA start to pick up, the flow timeline should start decreasing in theory right? When they come up with these numbers I would imagine that they are considering all statistics on pilot loss and movement for the next 5, 10, maybe even 20+ years. I do get it though, I'm not naive enough to rely solely on the flow. I'm sure I'll be applying once I feel ready and I get the required minimums for potential majors.

 

I hate to talk poorly about an old employer but it was an operational dumpster fire. PM me if you want to know details.

 

This has been rehashed several times. What are the recruiters telling you?

 

Hey everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster. I don’t mean to hijack the thread, but didn’t feel it was necessary to start a completely separate thread for this question.

I’m close to finishing up school and becoming eligible for the cadet program. The top two choices are Envoy and Republic. Mainly for their MIA base. Equipment isn’t as important as QOL since I’m married and volunteer in the community.

Before I get attacked for wanting to come to Envoy and become a cadet, here’s my reasoning. I’d like to be a cadet is because I’d get first pick at equipment (who knows, maybe the 175 will be in MIA by the time I go in for NH class?), MIA base, and it’s nice knowing I don’t have to interview again. Having flow isn’t a bad deal either. Whether 5 year or 10 years, I made peace with being a regional for close to a decade no matter where I go.

Any advice would be great on whether I should commit to the cadet program would be great.