Keep in mind it could take anywhere from 3-12 months to actually end up at Miami after you start unless you are awarded it in Indoc which is unlikely so be prepared to commute for a little bit.
A friend of mine said the same thing. I'm okay with that as long as I eventually end up back in MIA. I understand that this industry is about paying dues.
NoValueAviator
04-04-2018 02:13 PM
I'd bail if I hadn't made the commitments I made. Probably to Compass or Republic. That said, I wouldn't (and didn't) leave after showing up for training. While Envoy might be one of the worst regionals to work for as a new hire right now, it could be one of the best to work for in a year. Or tomorrow. Who knows.
highfarfast
04-04-2018 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Pilotman7700
(Post 2564968)
I was told 6 years. Which still seems too high to not at least try to get to a major but at this point I'd be happy staying at Envoy for next 10 years in comparison to how my quality of life has been for the past 10.
In reality, flow will be higher than that for a new hire today. Union projection is 9 years. Some will say it will be less than that but so far the union's projections have been more conservative than reality. For what it's worth, they told me 5.5 years when I was hired. Union projection for me is closer to 6.5 years from the date I was hired and that's an increase from what it was when I was hired.
FWIW, I did not come to Envoy for the flow. I suggest you think in the same terms. Throw flow out the window and then decide where's best for you (unless you NEED flow because of lack of degree or some skeletons). All the airlines will be hurting for pilots in the coming years and will be hiring. There are those that say "you never know what happens and if there's another 9/11 or whatever..." but really, if there's something like that, flow will come to a halt too.
ViperCrosswind
04-04-2018 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
(Post 2564144)
If you're a military aviator, there is no place for you at the regionals, sir. Go directly to the big three.
Wildly inaccurate. I fly military, and have several friends who do as well. We need regional experience just like everyone else. The myth that military guys get hired is untrue.
Case in point - I know an F16 instructor with 2.5k hours (that’s a lot these days folks) get told by United 6-9 months ago he needed more hours to be competitive.
amcnd
04-04-2018 04:16 PM
All i can say. Is stick with it. 4,5,even 9 years. It will be worth it. I left. And sort of regret it now.. I was a 99’ hire. Left after 9/11. But now after the “lost decade” im trying to get on a major. Had i stuck it out i would have flowed after 17 years. So 5-9 years seems reasonable...
