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TransWorld 04-26-2018 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2580960)
My money is on TransWorld being either:

A. Envoy management
Or
B. Envoy recruiter

A. No

B. No

C. No

Bigpimppilot 04-26-2018 06:17 PM

Could have fooled me. Oh well I was wrong too I guess. He said he isn’t one right now. FYI you have management material written all over you. Let this be your come to Jesus moment

Pedro4President 04-26-2018 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2581014)
Could have fooled me. Oh well I was wrong too I guess. He said he isn’t one right now. FYI you have management material written all over you. Let this be your come to Jesus moment

Come on lay off the guy. Maybe I missed something but I don't think he has said anything close to being management or recruitment like. He may have some greener opinions than I do of the company but I don't think he has been dishonest or overstated the facts like ag38 does.

Every time I hear ag38 say "fact"I chuckle and think to myself "I don't think he knows what that word really means.

HardLemonade 04-26-2018 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2580992)
A. No

B. No

C. No

Sounds like the later stages of one my typical dates....

atpcliff 04-27-2018 02:26 AM

I have read several sources that say the engineer(mechanic) shortage is even worse than the pilot shortage.

BIueSideUp 04-27-2018 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by HardLemonade (Post 2581102)
Sounds like the later stages of one my typical dates....

For the win 🤣

Virga show 04-27-2018 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2581035)
Come on lay off the guy. Maybe I missed something but I don't think he has said anything close to being management or recruitment like. He may have some greener opinions than I do of the company but I don't think he has been dishonest or overstated the facts like ag38 does.

Every time I hear ag38 say "fact"I chuckle and think to myself "I don't think he knows what that word really means.

Maybe TransWorld is the line captain that came to Miami crew room to poach Republic Pilots so they can come to Envoy as HVA’s. The pieces of paper he was handing out were a load of $h!t. 5-6 year flow for new hires!!!

bigtime209 04-27-2018 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Virga show (Post 2581256)
Maybe TransWorld is the line captain that came to Miami crew room to poach Republic Pilots so they can come to Envoy as HVA’s. The pieces of paper he was handing out were a load of $h!t. 5-6 year flow for new hires!!!

Wow...that really happened? Embarrassing.

flyingberk 04-27-2018 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Azorian (Post 2579500)
I've relegated myself to lurker status since i didnt take the Envoy gig and have been staying out of these threads since, but out of curiosity, how many HVAs you guys getting?

i passed up the HVA offer out of the fear that i would be obligating myself to long term Junior Manning in LGA or ORD. Been there, done that, not worth $100,000 bonus let alone $45,000 bonus.

I only butt into the conversation because surely enough HVA folks out there can do that math

Does this mean that you interviewed and spoke to a recruiter? These forums say a DEC will be on reserve in LGA for over a year. Recruitment material says a DEC should expect to hold a line at the end of IOE. I would like to know which is based in fact, or are both an exaggeration

armypilot 04-27-2018 07:12 AM

I hate sounding ignorant, but what does HVA stand for?

ArmyRWP2018 04-27-2018 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by armypilot (Post 2581312)
I hate sounding ignorant, but what does HVA stand for?

High Value Aviator. Already enough 121 hours accumulated to be highered directly as "Street Captain" or "Direct Entry Captain" at a Regional. That is what the $44K bonus is about.

Not for RTP types like me.

BeechPilot33 04-27-2018 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by flyingberk (Post 2581282)
Does this mean that you interviewed and spoke to a recruiter? These forums say a DEC will be on reserve in LGA for over a year. Recruitment material says a DEC should expect to hold a line at the end of IOE. I would like to know which is based in fact, or are both an exaggeration

Talk to a line pilot in LGA if you can.

yeahbutstill 04-27-2018 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by flyingberk (Post 2581282)
Recruitment material says a DEC should expect to hold a line at the end of IOE.

Listen man, I got an oceanview property in North dakota for cheap, u interested?

bigtime209 04-27-2018 08:38 AM

For those that are wondering, in LGA for May the most JR CA holding a hard line is a 7/17 hire. Most JR CA holding a composite line is an 11/17 hire.

havick206 04-27-2018 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2581388)
For those that are wondering, in LGA for May the most JR CA holding a hard line is a 7/17 hire. Most JR CA holding a composite line is an 11/17 hire.

Which will change as even more 2016 NH’s start coming out if upgrade training

dvtpilot 04-27-2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2581395)
Which will change as even more 2016 NH’s start coming out if upgrade training

Maybe. I think a lot of the 2016 and senior guy being upgraded now can probably hold whatever base they want in the left seat. Maybe dfw would be tough but anything else should be feasible and may not affect LGA as much

FullThrust 04-27-2018 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by dvtpilot (Post 2581432)
Maybe. I think a lot of the 2016 and senior guy being upgraded now can probably hold whatever base they want in the left seat. Maybe dfw would be tough but anything else should be feasible and may not affect LGA as much

I agree. Unless you are a DEC or are incredibly junior as an FO, you will be able to avoid NYC,if desired.

Inop2 04-27-2018 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by FullThrust (Post 2581452)
I agree. Unless you are a DEC or are incredibly junior as an FO, you will be able to avoid NYC,if desired.

True that.

V12Merlin 04-27-2018 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by flyingberk (Post 2581282)
Does this mean that you interviewed and spoke to a recruiter? These forums say a DEC will be on reserve in LGA for over a year. Recruitment material says a DEC should expect to hold a line at the end of IOE. I would like to know which is based in fact, or are both an exaggeration

Thats perfect for me--

Got my best eye on a couple nursing home babes over at the kew!:D

DreFlyer 04-27-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by yeahbutstill (Post 2581349)
Listen man, I got an oceanview property in North dakota for cheap, u interested?

By "oceanview property" you mean one with a nice view of the oil spill "puddles", right? :D

Pedro4President 05-08-2018 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by gripngrab (Post 2578663)
HVA program not working. Word on the street is cancelled summer vacations and a short term suspension of the flow (June, July)

Word on the street is that we are going to flow 29 each month.

Bruno82 05-12-2018 06:57 PM

For DECs, when you’ve been offered a class date, how far out has the earliest been?


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Pedro4President 05-13-2018 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 2592736)
For DECs, when you’ve been offered a class date, how far out has the earliest been?


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ASAP. As soon as you get all clear you get a class date.

Bruno82 05-13-2018 06:51 AM

That’s odd. The earliest class date that was offered was a little over two months away.


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SilentLurker 05-13-2018 07:03 AM

CA Shortage Critical
 

Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 2592922)
That’s odd. The earliest class date that was offered was a little over two months away.


That sounds odd. Maybe you wrote or stated a date you could start was two months out? Explainable misunderstanding? Did you call to verify that an earlier class date is not available for you?

You have to be assertive at times or get left in the shadows. Company & industry is thirsty for 121 eligible “regional” street captains / DECs.

moon 05-13-2018 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 2592922)
That’s odd. The earliest class date that was offered was a little over two months away.


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It could be that we actually have enough DEC in the works currently. I believe the last class had 13 of them. They may want to spread them out I don't know.

Bruno82 05-13-2018 07:38 AM

Thank you for the responses. I did ask the person scheduling class dates to keep me in mind if a spot in a class in June comes open.


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Bruno82 05-19-2018 07:23 PM

So, I talked to a guy who’s buddy interviewed for DEC a week or so before me. He said the earliest class date offered was in July also. So it seems like it’s a little over two months from CJO to class for DEC.


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Folove 05-20-2018 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 2597950)
So, I talked to a guy who’s buddy interviewed for DEC a week or so before me. He said the earliest class date offered was in July also. So it seems like it’s a little over two months from CJO to class for DEC.


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Yep, I interviewed back in April and was offered June class date. I too asked them to keep me in mind for an earlier class date...

Bruno82 05-24-2018 05:43 AM

Can anyone tell me how much a CA on the low end of the reserve list in LGA is flying?

YLpilot 05-24-2018 11:31 AM

Last 5 days on reserve for me. Day 1 proffer for a trip and actually got it!! Day 3 and 4 standby not called. Day 5 called for a miserable and delayed JFK turn. Didn't get back until midnight. Total block for the 5 days approximately 15hrs.


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