As a 600 hr FO, I feel like I’m giving up the most only to gain the least. The protected pilots get more flow by giving up nothing. None of the concessions will affect a protected pilot. Good for them I guess but not at the expense of everyone who is junior.

Burn it down.

They can now force you as a reserve pilot with over 800 hours to fly by displacing a lineholder. The union completely sold the first officers out on this. Not surprising. The agreement will move SP’s flow up a month.

Will allow the company to assign flying to reserve FOs? I'm assuming this is for new hires with prior 121 looking to upgrade ASAP? Any senior FOs who are on reserve are on there for the exact opposite reason, delaying that upgrade. I guess 800 is the new number to avoid. Although if this is what we're getting instead of CA pay increases and general reserve improvements I guess there's no longer a reason to delay the upgrade then, is there?

We gave up a **** ton to still be here, even though I voted no

As a CA upgrade currently in training, I just got a pay raise and a flow date several months sooner (post-DOS hire). Also, since I now will get 20 extra hours of IOE, I’ll be spending less time in MIA after training before I assume DCE status in July, and will be able to hold DCL that much sooner and spend less time on reserve when I get there. This amounts to zero negatives for me, since I thought the lesser of 25 or 50% a month was the case already.

This is BS. Any FO with 800hrs 121 at envoy can be off of reserve if they want unless they are prior 121. This means that all FOs who are choosing to be on reserve who aren’t prior 121, are probably doing it to avoid flying. Saying the “overwhelming consensus” is saying that all those FOs choosing to be on reserve really want to get flight time as quick as possible. Really?

I thought the same thing, every fo I fly with on rsv, can hold a line, but don't want to for obvious reasons

Wait were you wanting to burn it down when as a NH you got a 20k bonus plus base salary increases when The protected pilots got hardly anything. Your increase in compensation was 20x more than the protected pilots.

I have been saying this continually that at Envoy we have winners and losers. It sucks that this time you drew the short straw.

Honestly folks.... they paid their dues to save this company. Lost CA wages, lost flying and flow, lost VACATION, this is nothing! Compared to what they endured to keep this company afloat and where it is today.


So I’m not whining. I have a lot to be grateful for. LONG-TERM thinking.

Maybe instead of screwing the majority of the pilot group over for 4 more flow slots they could have said no, give some QOL and a pay raise and then they’red be a long line out the door to be here, and they could up the flow organically.