There was no grievance in for the rest. When the time comes cross that bridge then unless the company negotiates in good faith in advance of non pp flowing of their own fruition.

The flow hasn't changed for all other groups. It is the same as it was when you signed on the dotted line.

It's the same language that was there when you signed the employment paperwork. I'm not really understanding why everyone is acting like this part changed for the worse. Would getting increased flow for every group have been great? Of course. But I don't get why guys are acting like the post PP language has somehow changed.

I guess I am coming from a different angle. While I understand it hasn’t changed, that’s kind of the point I am making. I just felt we were in a great spot negotiating wise and it would have been nice to firm everything up and improve the flow for everyone. That’s all I am trying to say. I personally know people that were on the fence about coming here because the flow was kind of wishy washy and this doesn’t do anything for that.

Sure we can griev again, but really, we are just pushing the problem down the road. I am very happy however for the PP’s and wish it could have come sooner for them. Congratulations.

The rest of the changes have pros and cons all around so I am pretty neutral to them.

I think people were just expecting flow relief for all. Perhaps we just need to wait and griev it later when there will be a violation.

Any idea why someone going to 145 LGA CA training in 10 days would be withheld from training due to staffing, and returned to their status of 175 FO DFW?

Here I was thinking we needed CAs, especially in LGA. And I bid for it specifically lol. I don’t get it.

Pretty happy about the 950 hours to bid for an upgrade. That shaved off a month before more money.

Maybe they don’t want to pay you the captain rate yet lol.

I know we just gave up a lot to get 4 extra flows.

I'm ok settling the grievance before the arbitration but we gave up some stuff to get the settlement.

I think this was mostly a good settlement. Too bad there are no reparations to those who were affected and have flowed or are flowing short term. I think THAT is one area that could have been better negotiated. I want my 3 months of wide body Captain pay back!