Originally Posted by Inop2 (Post 2589446)

Done deal. No vote on this.

Originally Posted by ytumama (Post 2589455)

OK, so if selected on the last bid you start getting paid CA pay now? Or is it only for the new vacancy bids?

Originally Posted by Inop2 (Post 2589445)

Screw you havick. I was getting the info 2nd hand and made that pretty clear. A little busy today making dreams come true.

For their benefit and guys lower on seniority, I look forward to the PP’s being gone. They worked for it and deserve the flow in the coming months but it has been a divisive tool inserted in the seniority list. While the PP and others bash the NH for getting cash and wages and sounding indignant, I won’t miss the stories of walking 6 miles in the snow to get to school.

2 engine taxi, APU on.

Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2589060)

You received your sign on bonus at the expense of everyone senior to you....most of the remainder of the protected pilots have been screwed over by the company for the past 2 years while all the new hires have cashed in with big bonuses, short reserve time and quick upgrades. Be thankful you didn't have to start out at $27 an hour, 3 years reserve, 8 year upgrade, and multiple base closures and displacements.

Now you get to upgrade and make CA pay day 1, and flow faster to AA.

Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2589060)

You received your sign on bonus at the expense of everyone senior to you....most of the remainder of the protected pilots have been screwed over by the company for the past 6.5 years while all the new hires have cashed in with big bonuses, short reserve time and quick upgrades. Be thankful you didn't have to start out at $27 an hour, 3 years reserve, 8 year upgrade, and multiple base closures and displacements.

Now you get to upgrade and make CA pay day 1, and flow faster to AA.

Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 2589477)

I'm sure management loves seeing the Old Guard telling new hires to assume the position like they did for years instead of pushing for meaningful improvements.

Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 2589477)

I'm sure management loves seeing the Old Guard telling new hires to assume the position like they did for years instead of pushing for meaningful improvements.

Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 2589482)

Lol! Assuming the position like how we voted no under the threat of Comair II. Or voiced our opinion and asked the union to pull the reserve loa just last year. Or how about the reps, many of which are protected pilots that’s scored those retention bonuses & upgrade bonuses that you got. Those guys your talking about? Oh, most of which are the “old guard” who “assumed the position”

Originally Posted by mdot (Post 2589490)

It's sort of like a bell curve. The red circled pilots got to keep their compensation. The new hires get bonuses all day long. Plus immediate upgrade. The PPs got screwed to start out with. Concessionary contract, vacation stolen. And now finally we get something positive (that happens to benefit EVERYONE on property) and people are *****ing. It's not surprising obviously, but it's unfortunate.