Seniority and Flow
 

Not trying to throw the F-bomb around, but I had a question about the flow itself. When it comes to flowing based off of seniority, is that company seniority, captain #, pilot #, or seniority in your aircraft? What this stems from is a comment from a ENY Captain that I was talking to the other day that argued that going to the 145 side and accruing seniority there will help flow faster than the 175 side. Any merit to this? I appreciate all of the help.

I left Envoy a long while back, but if nothing has changed you basically just had to wait your turn. There was no way to jump anybody by flying a different fleet type. While I was there you just had to wait in line and hope. As far as I know nothing has changed. So yeah company seniority.

Thanks! I appreciate your response.

Flow is still based on overall company seniority.

Having said that there may be some merit to what you heard. Voluntary CA upgrades are subject to a 1 year seat lock which will prevent flow. If someone wants to upgrade but thinks the seat lock may delay their flow waiting to upgrade on the 175 vs taking a 145 upgrade that's available now could make a difference.

Also you need to be a CA or have held a CA seat to flow as per the new LOA.

What he meant was that all the lifers are on the 175 enjoying the long legs and good apu. If you ever want to see weekends off before you flow the 145 is the way to go

This may be true in Dallas, not so much in ORD. Most of the Captains there seem to be younger, with an average of 12-16 months to flow. Movement up the list should happen at a bearable pace up there.

To the OP, its company seniority.

Until the lifers on the CRJ come over to the 175 and clog the top...

Yo elpflyer are you dallas based?

Fleet is flow neutral. The FO seat lock and radically different NH experience on the 145 just makes it seem like there are two different airlines, actually it's only one. The only advantage of the 145 is the extra couple bucks on day one, and you'll blow through that easily in your first month off IOE hiring rides back and forth between JFK/LGA lol