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Amansworld 12-03-2018 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Oregon Trail (Post 2718083)
I am DEC in training and attempted to put in 3P for MIA but it will only let me do it as an FO not CA. is there someone to contact about this?


Congrats- they are seat locking DECs now.

moon 12-03-2018 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Oregon Trail (Post 2718083)
I am DEC in training and attempted to put in 3P for MIA but it will only let me do it as an FO not CA. is there someone to contact about this?

Doesn't matter until there is a vacancy bid. However it should be 3p/MIA/CA/EMJ/D Make sure there is that D for Domestic.

Or there may be a restriction on bidding built into DECS, while in initial training. Once a vacancy is posted there is a mask you fill out and email to the person who runs the bids, but again you have to wait until there is vacancy.

Oregon Trail 12-03-2018 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2718295)
Doesn't matter until there is a vacancy bid. However it should be 3p/MIA/CA/EMJ/D Make sure there is that D for Domestic.

Or there may be a restriction on bidding built into DECS, while in initial training. Once a vacancy is posted there is a mask you fill out and email to the person who runs the bids, but again you have to wait until there is vacancy.

It gives me +Invalid Seat+ when I try to do that, FOs that are upgrading in my class are able to put in their base bids for 3D and 3P for CA slots. We were also told to put in out requests while in training and we could possibly get our request before finishing IOE.

Im not sure if Direct Entry Captains are seat locked but I am on the equipment I want & would like to be at Miami as soon as possible.

moon 12-03-2018 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Oregon Trail (Post 2718393)
It gives me +Invalid Seat+ when I try to do that, FOs that are upgrading in my class are able to put in their base bids for 3D and 3P for CA slots. We were also told to put in out requests while in training and we could possibly get our request before finishing IOE.

Im not sure if Direct Entry Captains are seat locked but I am on the equipment I want & would like to be at Miami as soon as possible.

Even with a seat lock it should allow you to do it. You may be entering it in the wrong order. Either way you won't get awarded anything until a vacancy is announced. At that point I'd try again and if it doesn't work email a union rep.

FlyGuy2112 12-03-2018 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2718484)
Even with a seat lock it should allow you to do it. You may be entering it in the wrong order. Either way you won't get awarded anything until a vacancy is announced. At that point I'd try again and if it doesn't work email a union rep.

You can’t do it until you are qualified on the equipment. If you are still in training when the next bid comes out email Phil Hebb for a paper bid sheet.

FlyGuy2112 12-03-2018 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2718484)
Even with a seat lock it should allow you to do it. You may be entering it in the wrong order. Either way you won't get awarded anything until a vacancy is announced. At that point I'd try again and if it doesn't work email a union rep.

You can’t do it until you are qualified on the equipment. If you are still in training when the next bid comes out email Phil Hebb for a paper bid sheet.

Oregon Trail 12-03-2018 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2112 (Post 2718488)
You can’t do it until you are qualified on the equipment. If you are still in training when the next bid comes out email Phil Hebb for a paper bid sheet.

Perfect thank you!

Oregon Trail 12-04-2018 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2718295)
Doesn't matter until there is a vacancy bid. However it should be 3p/MIA/CA/EMJ/D Make sure there is that D for Domestic.

Or there may be a restriction on bidding built into DECS, while in initial training. Once a vacancy is posted there is a mask you fill out and email to the person who runs the bids, but again you have to wait until there is vacancy.

I figured it out, Direct Entry Captains do not exist in the world of DECS.
Direct entry CA cannot bid anything as a CA until rated on equipment. Paper bid is possible through correct channels and only if a bid is open prior to finishing training.

arkmm 12-05-2018 03:27 AM

What would it take for a DEC to get to DFW now (even on reserve)? 12 months in the 145 in LGA or ORD? or in any aircraft?

Amansworld 12-05-2018 04:03 AM

Be careful
 
Coming here as a DEC is an extremely bad decision unless you live in your domicile. Envoy by far has the worst QOL I have ever seen and that includes when I worked at 135 gigs. They are straight abusive to DECS.


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