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GoFast8 09-26-2018 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2681588)
3 months is probably dreaming, it’s not impossible but the planets would have to align to be back in DFW by the time you finish training (assuming a bid ran during your Indoc week).

Probably more like 6-12 months to get to dfw on the 145 as FO, by the time you take into account bid award and move date etc.

Yeah thats what I was thinking. How often do the bids run?

pitchattitude 09-26-2018 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by GoFast8 (Post 2681593)
Yeah thats what I was thinking. How often do the bids run?

They have been fairly consistent every three months, beginning of the quarter. Next one closes sometime first week of October.

GoFast8 09-26-2018 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2681597)
They have been fairly consistent every three months, beginning of the quarter. Next one closes sometime first week of October.

Awesome! Thanks. Hopefully i get access and learn how to use DECS before this bid closes.

henryjj 09-26-2018 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by GoFast8 (Post 2681606)
Awesome! Thanks. Hopefully i get access and learn how to use DECS before this bid closes.

Friend told me that this week's new hire class isn't eligible for this vacancy bid.. Check with another pilot. Heard it was an HI6 message or something

GoFast8 09-27-2018 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 2681661)
Friend told me that this week's new hire class isn't eligible for this vacancy bid.. Check with another pilot. Heard it was an HI6 message or something

Intresting. Why wouldnt this weeks new hire class be eligible? Ill have to ask around

SilentLurker 09-28-2018 09:58 PM

October 8th Class
 

Originally Posted by GoFast8 (Post 2681686)
Intresting. Why wouldnt this weeks new hire class be eligible? Ill have to ask around



Because we’re still in between vacancies. A standing vacancy has not been announced yet with the new vacancy. The new one has not even closed yet. Once it does and results are out, then standing bids are out out.

Then FO’s with 950hrs & DECs can have at the spoils / crumbs. That is basically how it works, until the following vacancy bid/announcement.

Nutshell is, DEC’s choices are in the Standing Vacancy offerings.

GoFast8 09-29-2018 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2682744)
Because we’re still in between vacancies. A standing vacancy has not been announced yet with the new vacancy. The new one has not even closed yet. Once it does and results are out, then standing bids are out out.

Then FO’s with 950hrs & DECs can have at the spoils / crumbs. That is basically how it works, until the following vacancy bid/announcement.

Nutshell is, DEC’s choices are in the Standing Vacancy offerings.

Ok. I'm probably missing something here, but being in the new hire class that started on 9/24...I've already been able to put in my Standing Bid Preference.
Its my understanding that the current bid is open now and closes sometime in the first week of October.

Because I have my bid pref. in already prior to it closing sometime Oct.,, wouldn't I be eligible to be awarded what I bid....provided I'm lucky obviously, or am I totally lost?

pitchattitude 09-30-2018 01:39 AM

Not sure if this is the issue, but there are CA and FO vacancies on this bid.

It is possible that is part of the issue here. I’m not 100% sure, but as a new hire, probably for both seats, you can bid to change base. Certainly FOs can not change equipment and I THINK the DECs are stuck in equipment as well for the two year lock. I don’t see why both new hire CAs and FOs couldn’t change BASE only if there are openings and seniority allows it.

There were vacancies in both ORD and DFW on the 175 for FOs, so those on the 175 can move between base. There were the same number listed in both locations, so for those it is just a lateral and effectively for for the company a paper shuffle.

And either way, if the system allows you to put in a bid for something that you are not permitted, it will be ignored when the bid is run.

GoFast8 09-30-2018 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2683323)
Not sure if this is the issue, but there are CA and FO vacancies on this bid.

It is possible that is part of the issue here. I’m not 100% sure, but as a new hire, probably for both seats, you can bid to change base. Certainly FOs can not change equipment and I THINK the DECs are stuck in equipment as well for the two year lock. I don’t see why both new hire CAs and FOs couldn’t change BASE only if there are openings and seniority allows it.

There were vacancies in both ORD and DFW on the 175 for FOs, so those on the 175 can move between base. There were the same number listed in both locations, so for those it is just a lateral and effectively for for the company a paper shuffle.

And either way, if the system allows you to put in a bid for something that you are not permitted, it will be ignored when the bid is run.

Yeah anyone out if training on new equipment has a seat lock.

Where did you find a list if all the vacancies?

NoValueAviator 09-30-2018 08:02 AM

The vacancies are listed in the very badly formatted HI6 messages they sent.

Curiously, both NCE and NFE are missing from the openings.


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