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GoFast8 09-30-2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2683421)
The vacancies are listed in the very badly formatted HI6 messages they sent.

Curiously, both NCE and NFE are missing from the openings.

oh ok. not seeing those. must have deleted them, no clue how to get them back.

BigZ 09-30-2018 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by GoFast8 (Post 2683452)
oh ok. not seeing those. must have deleted them, no clue how to get them back.

Hi16
https://sabreguide.weebly.com/sabre-guide.html

3GreenKSNA 09-30-2018 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by GoFast8 (Post 2683452)
oh ok. not seeing those. must have deleted them, no clue how to get them back.

HI16/startdate/enddate

-Keep the dirty side down

pitchattitude 09-30-2018 10:50 AM

21sep


to: All pilots
vacancy/displacement bid is open eff <21 sep 2018
*vacancies* *enter training no later than*
<20 dfw ca emj <30 mar 20
<40 ord ca emj <30 mar 20
<50 dfw ca e75 <30 mar 20
<15 dfw fo emj <30 mar 20
<30 ord fo emj <30 mar 20
<40 dfw fo e75 <30 mar 20
<40 ord fo e75 <30 mar 20
there may not be backfills. This bid will close at <1500ct on <06oct18 and is scheduled to be run on <09oct18. A preliminary award may follow.
Pilots entering training within 14 days of the actual run date will be subject to a training freeze and will not be awarded a vacancy.
Per cba section 15.j.2 and 3. Pilots with a retirement date before <13dec19 will be withheld from a bid status per cba section 15 g.6.a. A final award will be posted on <13oct18. Report any problems to your chief pilot. All bids are your responsibility and final on the bid closing date. Per letter 13-08 lga/jfk are considered co-domiciles. Please use lga as the base when bidding in the vacancy.

CaseTractor 09-30-2018 12:08 PM

"Pilots entering training within 14 days of the actual run date will be subject to a training freeze and will not be awarded a vacancy."

Does this apply to FOs who were displaced to CA in a seat they wish to leave? And if so, does that mean they can bid for another position after they are DONE with training during the next vacancy bid?

When an FO is displaced to CA, are they displaced only into available vacancies, or can they displace any other CA junior to them into a seat they desire? i.e. this vacancy bid could cause a junior CA to be displaced by a forced upgrade FO? And then the whole process repeats down the line perpetually for many months and system bids?

GoFast8 09-30-2018 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA (Post 2683478)
HI16/startdate/enddate

-Keep the dirty side down

Thank you!

GoFast8 09-30-2018 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2683524)
21sep


to: All pilots
vacancy/displacement bid is open eff <21 sep 2018
*vacancies* *enter training no later than*
<20 dfw ca emj <30 mar 20
<40 ord ca emj <30 mar 20
<50 dfw ca e75 <30 mar 20
<15 dfw fo emj <30 mar 20
<30 ord fo emj <30 mar 20
<40 dfw fo e75 <30 mar 20
<40 ord fo e75 <30 mar 20
there may not be backfills. This bid will close at <1500ct on <06oct18 and is scheduled to be run on <09oct18. A preliminary award may follow.
Pilots entering training within 14 days of the actual run date will be subject to a training freeze and will not be awarded a vacancy.
Per cba section 15.j.2 and 3. Pilots with a retirement date before <13dec19 will be withheld from a bid status per cba section 15 g.6.a. A final award will be posted on <13oct18. Report any problems to your chief pilot. All bids are your responsibility and final on the bid closing date. Per letter 13-08 lga/jfk are considered co-domiciles. Please use lga as the base when bidding in the vacancy.

Does this “training freeze” apply if you started training less than 14 days of the bid run and are bidding for a different base/same equip? Or is it for different base/different equip?

I wouldnt think a simple change of base and no change of equipment would incur a training freeze.

havick206 09-30-2018 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by GoFast8 (Post 2683591)
Does this “training freeze” apply if you started training less than 14 days of the bid run and are bidding for a different base/same equip? Or is it for different base/different equip?

I wouldnt think a simple change of base and no change of equipment would incur a training freeze.

Different equip

Cyborg13 10-26-2018 08:38 AM

I was in the September 24th class and we were able to bid. In fact 2/3 of the class was awarded base transfers, effective March 2. Everyone in the class who bid DFW/145 got it.


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