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Old 12-26-2018 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Yeah I agree and while this may be just a hunch, I feel those saying commute are either single or have never done it. Commuting is pretty hell and it robs you of time from your family and friends. This is time you won’t ever be able to get back. If I was single with nothing to go home too, sure commuting could be great, however I value the time with my wife and kids more than 6 months of quicker hours.

Not to mention island flying out MIA. Sure beats the hell out of 175 ORD to DSM.
Four kids and I commuted for more than a year. This really isn't a mysterious topic we are talking about. We all know about commuting reserve and what that entails with QOL. We have had almost two dozen DFW guys transferred up to LGA that actually live in DFW simply to hold a line.

If he chose the 175 how many extra months would he be commuting?? 6 months? The only question is would it be worth it to commute to a line for 12-13 months vs commuting to reserve for three months then a crappy line for another three months folllowed by 6 months of reserve in base with airport stand by shifts?
He could hit 950 hours then go to the 145 CA in MIA.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Four kids and I commuted for more than a year. This really isn't a mysterious topic we are talking about. We all know about commuting reserve and what that entails with QOL. We have had almost two dozen DFW guys transferred up to LGA that actually live in DFW simply to hold a line.

If he chose the 175 how many extra months would he be commuting?? 6 months? The only question is would it be worth it to commute to a line for 12-13 months vs commuting to reserve for three months then a crappy line for another three months folllowed by 6 months of reserve in base with airport stand by shifts?
He could hit 950 hours then go to the 145 CA in MIA.
Like I stated it a previous post, people do what’s best for them. He asked an opinion and I stated mine. I value not commuting and don’t mind sitting reserve if it meant I don’t have to commute. To each their own.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 10:02 AM
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I don't know that anyone really answered OP's question so in January most Jr. FO holding MIA is approximately 9/18 hire, most Jr. lineholder is approximately a 10/17 hire. Good luck w/ your decision.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I mean money aside, a new hire isn’t going to flow that quick anyway so career progression in my opinion is less of a factor. If you think you can get hired outside of the flow in a quicker time frame then yes, you will save 6 months. However, I wouldn’t want to commute again, regardless of the extra time as in the long run those six months won’t matter that much if things stay the same, but if things change for the worse flying a jet that is based where you live would be huge.

Thankfully we are on good times right now and you have options. Just understand that most will tell you not to commute but there are tons and tons that still do it. Good luck.
You're making the assumption that he's happy to just sit around waiting for the flow instead of trying build time quickly to get on with a major sooner than later. We'd need more info from the OP on what his goals are.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 10:22 AM
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Enjoying sky high QOL and getting a real flying job before your flow number comes up in 8-12 years aren't mutually exclusive. A lot of guys on here talk like gunners commuting across 3 timezones and sleeping in the most roach-infested crashpads, picking up every dog**** turn down to 8 days off in merciless pursuit of 1000 hrs TPIC but you never run into anyone doing that in real life.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
You're making the assumption that he's happy to just sit around waiting for the flow instead of trying build time quickly to get on with a major sooner than later. We'd need more info from the OP on what his goals are.
Read up a couple posts, I stated to each their own. We all have different priorities. I “assume” flow because I know lots of people who have the time, degree and resume to get out to a major and are not receiving calls. Unless he/she is prior military and just needs the 121 check box I am going to assume they are here for at least a couple years, otherwise why bother. Lots of other regionals have higher monthly flight lines.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Read up a couple posts, I stated to each their own. We all have different priorities. I “assume” flow because I know lots of people who have the time, degree and resume to get out to a major and are not receiving calls. Unless he/she is prior military and just needs the 121 check box I am going to assume they are here for at least a couple years, otherwise why bother. Lots of other regionals have higher monthly flight lines.
OP clearly states (s)he sold soul to become a cadet. Not military. Didn’t mention 4 year degree. The only (possible) evidence, at least on this site, of someone possibly getting picked up outside the flow low time was E175 Driver. While I do believe he legitimately is who he has claimed, he had a ERU degree, and I believe his (her?, but doubtful) daddy is at AA. I recall an early post from him. Nepotism is alive at AA. I sat on the JS with an interviewer and he told me specifically it has come into play recently.

While I believe the chances are getting better, you have to check a lot of boxes to get hired by a major. What those boxes are just depends on the person. But one way or the other, you have a lot of check marks to fill in before you get there. Some you can control, some you can’t and some just take longer to check. Up to the individual how they want to go about checking those boxes.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
OP clearly states (s)he sold soul to become a cadet. Not military. Didn’t mention 4 year degree. The only (possible) evidence, at least on this site, of someone possibly getting picked up outside the flow low time was E175 Driver. While I do believe he legitimately is who he has claimed, he had a ERU degree, and I believe his (her?, but doubtful) daddy is at AA. I recall an early post from him. Nepotism is alive at AA. I sat on the JS with an interviewer and he told me specifically it has come into play recently.

While I believe the chances are getting better, you have to check a lot of boxes to get hired by a major. What those boxes are just depends on the person. But one way or the other, you have a lot of check marks to fill in before you get there. Some you can control, some you can’t and some just take longer to check. Up to the individual how they want to go about checking those boxes.
When are you going to realize this guy is a troll. You don't frequent many online forums do you?
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Old 12-26-2018 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bh539
When are you going to realize this guy is a troll. You don't frequent many online forums do you?
You’re right. I don’t. And I certainly believe he IS trolling, BUT that doesn’t mean he isn’t truthful. He has stayed in character VERY accurately and just gave up his story line if he was JUST making his story up.

And if he was just playing a character, then that gives all the more credence to my point, you have a LOT of boxes to check to get hired by a major.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
You’re right. I don’t. And I certainly believe he IS trolling, BUT that doesn’t mean he isn’t truthful. He has stayed in character VERY accurately and just gave up his story line if he was JUST making his story up.



And if he was just playing a character, then that gives all the more credence to my point, you have a LOT of boxes to check to get hired by a major.

You were correct overall...
His uncle or family being a 777 LCA at AA, plus a second AA Mgmt type he knew. So 2 or more LOR’s and a “ERAU” degree he believes helped him stand out (cough cough), and a lot of supposed “networking” [/QUOTE]

Dilly dilly to him/her!

*We all know by now in aviation it’s not so much what you know, but how you appear, who you are, who you know, and who the person is with power throws your way, and a little bit of luck.

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