Envoy Pilots AA?
03-11-2019 | 04:10 PM
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FA says you have a jumpseater. Guy comes in and says, “Hi I am XXXXX with American. I’m riding in the back. I have a seat.”
I ask for his badge, license, medical and JS form. He hands them over. JS form says Envoy. His badge says Envoy. I ask, “Are you AA or Envoy?” Response was “Envoy is wholly owned by American.” I tell him to take his seat and welcome. I feel I was quite nice considering the circumstances. The guy was really condescending with his wholly owned response.
03-11-2019 | 04:13 PM
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I was the captain on the flight and FYI, I work for an LCC not a legacy. I sure didn’t take my post as getting bent out of shape. It’s more amusing really than anything. Exchange goes like this.
FA says you have a jumpseater. Guy comes in and says, “Hi I am XXXXX with American. I’m riding in the back. I have a seat.”
I ask for his badge, license, medical and JS form. He hands them over. JS form says Envoy. His badge says Envoy. I ask, “Are you AA or Envoy?” Response was “Envoy is wholly owned by American.” I tell him to take his seat and welcome. I feel I was quite nice considering the circumstances. The guy was really condescending with his wholly owned response.
FA says you have a jumpseater. Guy comes in and says, “Hi I am XXXXX with American. I’m riding in the back. I have a seat.”
I ask for his badge, license, medical and JS form. He hands them over. JS form says Envoy. His badge says Envoy. I ask, “Are you AA or Envoy?” Response was “Envoy is wholly owned by American.” I tell him to take his seat and welcome. I feel I was quite nice considering the circumstances. The guy was really condescending with his wholly owned response.
03-11-2019 | 04:22 PM
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I was the captain on the flight and FYI, I work for an LCC not a legacy. I sure didn’t take my post as getting bent out of shape. It’s more amusing really than anything. Exchange goes like this.
FA says you have a jumpseater. Guy comes in and says, “Hi I am XXXXX with American. I’m riding in the back. I have a seat.”
I ask for his badge, license, medical and JS form. He hands them over. JS form says Envoy. His badge says Envoy. I ask, “Are you AA or Envoy?” Response was “Envoy is wholly owned by American.” I tell him to take his seat and welcome. I feel I was quite nice considering the circumstances. The guy was really condescending with his wholly owned response.
FA says you have a jumpseater. Guy comes in and says, “Hi I am XXXXX with American. I’m riding in the back. I have a seat.”
I ask for his badge, license, medical and JS form. He hands them over. JS form says Envoy. His badge says Envoy. I ask, “Are you AA or Envoy?” Response was “Envoy is wholly owned by American.” I tell him to take his seat and welcome. I feel I was quite nice considering the circumstances. The guy was really condescending with his wholly owned response.
03-11-2019 | 05:31 PM
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Well let see, you are riding in the back based on your jumpseat priviledge. So you are required to check in with the captain, FAA rule and company policy. I'd you are non rev either zeds or id90 then no, you dont need to check with captain, but you do if traveling on jumpseat priveledge.
So none up on proper procedures and not facebook b.s.
So none up on proper procedures and not facebook b.s.
03-11-2019 | 05:35 PM
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Damn, this kid needs a talking to.
It's common courtesy to let the CA decide where you're sitting. If there's room in the back, they usually say so and give you the option. You do not tell them "I'm sitting in the back," even if there are plenty of open sests. It's the CA's decision. SMDH
It's common courtesy to let the CA decide where you're sitting. If there's room in the back, they usually say so and give you the option. You do not tell them "I'm sitting in the back," even if there are plenty of open sests. It's the CA's decision. SMDH
03-11-2019 | 05:50 PM
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Well let see, you are riding in the back based on your jumpseat priviledge. So you are required to check in with the captain, FAA rule and company policy. I'd you are non rev either zeds or id90 then no, you dont need to check with captain, but you do if traveling on jumpseat priveledge.
So none up on proper procedures and not facebook b.s.
So none up on proper procedures and not facebook b.s.
With a cabin seat assignment, I don’t normally check in with my medical/license out of my wallet and in-hand, because I’ve never been asked to show them with a seat in back. Granted I mostly commute on company metal and SkyWest - maybe their captains are a little more loose with jumpseat credential checks. Not trying to start a fight - just asking.
03-11-2019 | 06:33 PM
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maybe you should check what envoy has for jumpseat for pilot cass approved airline requires. Here make it easy for you, fmp-1
sec 15-45 all the way to the bottom. It is required.
If you are talking an AAG employee traveling on AAG owned aircraft as a d2, no you do not have to check in with captain, but if you are checking in as a jumpseater you most certainly do have to check in with the captain. If you don't want to that is your choice, be aware you can be turned in to your company and have you cass restricted.
We have unlimited jumpseat privilege now, it used to be 1 seat only, it can revert to the way it was.
sec 15-45 all the way to the bottom. It is required.
If you are talking an AAG employee traveling on AAG owned aircraft as a d2, no you do not have to check in with captain, but if you are checking in as a jumpseater you most certainly do have to check in with the captain. If you don't want to that is your choice, be aware you can be turned in to your company and have you cass restricted.
We have unlimited jumpseat privilege now, it used to be 1 seat only, it can revert to the way it was.
03-11-2019 | 06:43 PM
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Those types of CAs are generally a**holes to fly with. 75% of the time guys/gals say the same to me, wish it wasn’t required for them to check in in the first place if they have a seat in the back. All it does is congest the boarding area, and make the flight attendant have to shuffle around awkwardly in these smaller RJs. Riding up front is a different story.
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