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Battlinbear 03-11-2019 06:46 PM

Damn!!! Johnny Brite Stripes definitely needs to have a sit down and he told how this works. When I was new Back in 08 and did t have a fn clue how things worked my sim partner just said “you always buy Tolberones for the crew. That’s SOP” that gem and when you upgrade your Per Diem is to only be used for drinks for you crew. Hopefully this was a one time offense. Thanks for the rides Back to Billings Eagle. Always was very enjoyable.

SEAtoSummit 03-11-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2780267)
maybe you should check what envoy has for jumpseat for pilot cass approved airline requires. Here make it easy for you, fmp-1
sec 15-45 all the way to the bottom. It is required.

If you are talking an AAG employee traveling on AAG owned aircraft as a d2, no you do not have to check in with captain, but if you are checking in as a jumpseater you most certainly do have to check in with the captain. If you don't want to that is your choice, be aware you can be turned in to your company and have you cass restricted.

We have unlimited jumpseat privilege now, it used to be 1 seat only, it can revert to the way it was.

Cool man. Maybe I’m busy doing the walk around or knuckles-deep in the FMS, but I guess I don’t notice captains I fly with checking documents for back-end riders. Or maybe their familiarity of JS requirements is on par with mine.:D

I actually checked the FM1 after I posted - I was really just curious and you’re absolutely right. That’s all.

Flyboy68 03-11-2019 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2780277)
Those types of CAs are generally a**holes to fly with. 75% of the time guys/gals say the same to me, wish it wasn’t required for them to check in in the first place if they have a seat in the back. All it does is congest the boarding area, and make the flight attendant have to shuffle around awkwardly in these smaller RJs. Riding up front is a different story.

You mean CA's that require some modicum of courtesy and respect when you're jumpseating on their aircraft?

That kind of CA? SMDH

dera 03-11-2019 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2780277)
Those types of CAs are generally a**holes to fly with. 75% of the time guys/gals say the same to me, wish it wasn’t required for them to check in in the first place if they have a seat in the back. All it does is congest the boarding area, and make the flight attendant have to shuffle around awkwardly in these smaller RJs. Riding up front is a different story.

You're getting a free ride as someone who doesn't work for the company. At least have the decency to "ask" for it.

Weekendwarrior2 03-11-2019 07:11 PM

Envoy Pilots AA?
 
“Hey I’m ____, with_____, got a seat in the back, thanks for the ride.” That’s enough for me. Do I personally ask when I have a seat in the back? Yes. But when I’m the working CA and someone comes up and asks if they can have a seat vs. tells me they have a seat it makes no difference. It’s a hassle for people to come up in the first place.

dera 03-11-2019 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2780311)
“Hey I’m ____, with_____, got a seat in the back, thanks for the ride.” That’s enough for me. Do I personally ask when I have a seat in the back? Yes. But when I’m the working CA and someone comes up and asks if they can have a seat vs. tells me they have a seat it makes no difference. It’s a hassle for people to come up in the first place.

It's just basic courtesy and manners.
It's like when you're in Whole Foods and they have samples. Do you say "I'm taking this" or "Can I have one of these?".
When you have to come up and introduce yourself, might as well be polite. It doesn't cost anything.

Weekendwarrior2 03-11-2019 07:33 PM

Envoy Pilots AA?
 
I’m not knocking anyone for being polite. I always ask, and I agree that’s the best way to go about it. I was more referring to the post above when someone said some captains would say “wanna bet?” I’m just not going to personally call someone out or be bothered if they say they have a seat vs. ask. Obviously there’s more going on than that in the OPs post, but that kid will get straightened out eventually.

Flyboy68 03-11-2019 08:06 PM

Funny story about jumpseating back in the day. I was jumpseating in the states from Alaska back to Louisiana. I flew for a small 135 operation in AK and we actually had jumpseat privileges on the majors somehow. So I go into the cockpit to meet the CA and introduce myself and he says, "Have you ever crossed a picket line son?" Me: "No sir, this is my first real aviation job." He says, "Well, I've got a list here, and if I find your name on it, you're not riding on my airplane." So he proceeds to get out his old list of scabs and went through the last names to check for mine. lol

And that wasn't the last time it happened. Had a couple other CA's that would take my badge and look at their scab list before signing it.

pitchattitude 03-12-2019 02:43 AM

I knew a guy that spent time in the Maricopa pen for jumpseating on Southwest with a badge he kept from Frontier. He had the 73 type but didn’t make it through the ‘Bus training. Somebody finally checked his credentials a little closer when his story didn’t add up.

chrisreedrules 03-12-2019 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2780330)
It's just basic courtesy and manners.
It's like when you're in Whole Foods and they have samples. Do you say "I'm taking this" or "Can I have one of these?".
When you have to come up and introduce yourself, might as well be polite. It doesn't cost anything.

I always make a point on any flight I’m on to go up front and ask the Captain for his permission to catch a ride wherever I’m going. It’s a courtesy and a tip of the hat to the Captain. I appreciate the same when I am up front.


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