Seems like such a long shot. Thoughts?

 

As long as classes are getting filled, no.

 

This^^^^^^^

 

Classes are being filled so why should they? There’s no incentive for AAG to do so.

The key to getting a raise lies with Piedmont. They are actually shrinking from attrition, Captain upgrade classes are being delayed and the mess that they created is growing. That is the best hope for the wholly owned carriers to see a raise.

 

At this point I believe they’d just raise pay at Piedmont or raise bonuses there as needed to fix the problems and not give anything to the other WOs. Past performance does not predict future results I think.

 

No, they made the right call by holding off on raises when everyone else was getting them. Applicants are responding to the perception that regional scene is improving and totally unprecedented numbers of new commercial pilots are being minted every year at big pilot mills like ATP, Riddle and UND. These people live w/ their parents, have no expenses, and would compete aggressively to fly for FREE at Envoy if they get to take selfies in the 175 and get a 10 year flow date. Welcome to the pilot glut.

 

I sort of agree. But I think the caveat is that even with the current numbers of prospective pilots there still won’t be enough fresh blood entering the industry to satiate the coming retirements.

But generally speaking I no longer believe there was/is a pilot shortage. There was a temporary squeeze around 2016. And some airlines threw money at the squeeze while others got creative with RTP and pipeline cadet programs etc which have been and are starting to pay off.

I think the future challenge will be keeping up with having enough qualified Captains to staff your flying. You can hire an FO, but nothing changes the fact that it takes roughly 2-2.5 years to get them the qualifications to legally become a 121 Captain. Within about 3 years the sucking sound coming from the legacy airlines draining the pool dry of qualified regional CA candidates will be hard to ignore.

 

So true......

Pilots are their worse enemy. If only we will hold off from accepting a class here, they would have to increase the pay. SHORT TERM PAIN FOR LONG TERM GAIN.

 

Will you be the first one to lead by example?

Thought so.

 

Lol true

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