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-   -   ALPA is not what it used to be (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/121197-alpa-not-what-used.html)

NoValueAviator 04-26-2019 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2809576)
These are a cut above shirts if im not mistaken

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo2c5IlA...=1dv5w1nmbzwua
indeed they are. so perhaps cut above shirts are approved by recruitment.

EnyFlyr 04-26-2019 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2809577)
indeed they are. so perhaps cut above shirts are approved by recruitment.
My point ;)

pitchattitude 04-26-2019 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2809577)
indeed they are. so perhaps cut above shirts are approved by recruitment.
Can’t say they are Cut Above, but definitely not standard uniform.

So does the “I’m a cool with the Aviators hanging out of the pocket” look in violation of FM1 imply being endorsed by Recruitment as well?

Al Czervik 04-29-2019 05:55 AM
Does Envoy have an ASAP program?

Cyio 04-29-2019 06:14 AM
Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2810789)
Does Envoy have an ASAP program?
Yes.

10/char

Al Czervik 04-29-2019 06:53 AM
Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2810801)
Yes.

10/char
Would that not cover a non intentional pilot deviation (if that’s what we’re talking about here)?

MD-11Loader 04-29-2019 07:01 AM
Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2810789)
Does Envoy have an ASAP program?
Yes, it operates at management and the media’s discretion.

Houpilot2001 04-29-2019 07:03 AM
Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2810827)
Yes, it operates at management and the media’s discretion.
Truth....filler

Bassman1985 04-29-2019 07:03 AM
Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2810821)
Would that not cover a non intentional pilot deviation (if that’s what we’re talking about here)?
Sure would. Unfortunately for this crew, they got themselves on the news before they even landed. And I believe ASAP can only protect you against certificate action by the FAA, it does nothing to protect you from your employer. And a predatory management will look for any excuse to terminate in the event of bad press. I hope the FO gets some justice for this. What happened to him wasn’t right.

Al Czervik 04-29-2019 07:55 AM
Originally Posted by Bassman1985 (Post 2810829)
Sure would. Unfortunately for this crew, they got themselves on the news before they even landed. And I believe ASAP can only protect you against certificate action by the FAA, it does nothing to protect you from your employer. And a predatory management will look for any excuse to terminate in the event of bad press. I hope the FO gets some justice for this. What happened to him wasn’t right.
Seems like a great way to promote a good safety culture.


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