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450knotOffice 04-25-2019 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by GCPhoenix (Post 2808802)
I'm sure I could tolerate a lot more BS if I'm getting paid 4x as much, so there's that...


That, and that there's nowhere near as much BS to put up with.

SkylineAviation 04-25-2019 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 2808901)
I wonder if AAG is aware that the flow is going to bring in a bunch of bitter regional folks that are hell bent at getting their due and proper after being beat up for the previous 7-9 years.

There is alot of side effect to this regional game. FUPM won't just be a regional cry, it'll be a mainline way of life from now till infinity. MAAGA

It’s nothing new unfortunately. We were flowing guys at 20+ years then 18, 16, etc all the way down to where we are now due to the lost decade, great recession, and subsequent bankruptcy. They were just as beat up and bitter (if not more) as the current group of PP going now.

29Eleven 04-25-2019 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by GCPhoenix (Post 2808802)
I'm sure I could tolerate a lot more BS if I'm getting paid 4x as much, so there's that...

Imagine that. Using your 175/190 type rating that you already hold to get paid 4-5 times as much. It always surprises me that people don’t talk about this fact more.

FlyPurdue 04-25-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by 29Eleven (Post 2808926)
Imagine that. Using your 175/190 type rating that you already hold to get paid 4-5 times as much. It always surprises me that people don’t talk about this fact more.

That is a great point, and fortunately that way of thinking is starting to show up more and more across the industry. When I was a -175 FO, I can remember landing in IAH from ORD, and parking right next to a -190 from PHL, and just shaking my head at the contradiction. It's funny too, because there are still a lot of people that say our captains need more experience before they can fly the same plane again as an FO. Someone earlier said stop calling us regional pilots, but rather call us 'B scale' pilots.

Excargodog 04-25-2019 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 2808901)
I wonder if AAG is aware that the flow is going to bring in a bunch of bitter regional folks that are hell bent at getting their due and proper after being beat up for the previous 7-9 years.

There is alot of side effect to this regional game. FUPM won't just be a regional cry, it'll be a mainline way of life from now till infinity. MAAGA

Naw. They'll find a legalistic gizmo to let them do away with flow. It has happened elsewhere.

dbflyer 04-25-2019 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup (Post 2808702)
I know that almost anything is better than Envoy. That’s a given.

If that's what you know, you must be lucky to be young and have had an easy life. If all goes well in this industry, hope that continues for you:)

TheRaven 04-25-2019 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 2808901)
I wonder if AAG is aware that the flow is going to bring in a bunch of bitter regional folks that are hell bent at getting their due and proper after being beat up for the previous 7-9 years....

7-9 whole years....wow.

dera 04-25-2019 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by TheRaven (Post 2809010)
7-9 whole years....wow.

It's a lifetime for an average millennial.

Bassman1985 04-25-2019 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by FlyPurdue (Post 2808930)
That is a great point, and fortunately that way of thinking is starting to show up more and more across the industry. When I was a -175 FO, I can remember landing in IAH from ORD, and parking right next to a -190 from PHL, and just shaking my head at the contradiction. It's funny too, because there are still a lot of people that say our captains need more experience before they can fly the same plane again as an FO. Someone earlier said stop calling us regional pilots, but rather call us 'B scale' pilots.

Sadly, it seems that the concept of “equal pay for equal work” only applies to your plumbing. God bless America...


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