Is AA just a glorified Envoy?
04-25-2019, 08:20 AM
#1
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: EMB-145
Posts: 196
Is AA just a glorified Envoy?
I know that almost anything is better than Envoy. That’s a given. The question is.... is Big Daddy Doug turning AA into a place we want to spend our careers at? The way things are going with upper management at AA doesn’t look much brighter than Envoy. Everybody wants to go to a legacy mainline, but when I ride the jumpseat it’s sounds like Envoy management is at AA.
04-25-2019, 09:04 AM
#2
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 136
Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup
I know that almost anything is better than Envoy. That’s a given. The question is.... is Big Daddy Doug turning AA into a place we want to spend our careers at? The way things are going with upper management at AA doesn’t look much brighter than Envoy. Everybody wants to go to a legacy mainline, but when I ride the jumpseat it’s sounds like Envoy management is at AA.
04-25-2019, 09:36 AM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Wildcat basically answered your question. The market does show that AA’s strategy is not working but I don’t think Envoy mgmt’s seething contempt for it’s mostly well-meaning line employees is really part of that. It has more to do with charging Delta prices for Spirit service with a large helping of exposure to bitter, angry customer facing employees you can’t get in such a concentration at any other airline.
04-25-2019, 09:48 AM
#4
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,656
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Wildcat basically answered your question. The market does show that AA’s strategy is not working but I don’t think Envoy mgmt’s seething contempt for it’s mostly well-meaning line employees is really part of that. It has more to do with charging Delta prices for Spirit service with a large helping of exposure to bitter, angry customer facing employees you can’t get in such a concentration at any other airline.
I dont think Doug will be around too much longer if things continue down this road. I mean they can't even use stock value as a reason to keep him anymore.
04-25-2019, 10:06 AM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Originally Posted by Cyio
This pretty much sums it up really. While Delta does things to improve passenger comfort, we cram more seats in the back with the excuse that we "will give customers more options" bull****. If people want rock bottom prices with no frills and al la carte pricing that's what the LCC's are for, not a mainline carrier. We should be prioritizing experience first, price second and only try to compete with the legacy carriers in that respect.
I dont think Doug will be around too much longer if things continue down this road. I mean they can't even use stock value as a reason to keep him anymore.
I dont think Doug will be around too much longer if things continue down this road. I mean they can't even use stock value as a reason to keep him anymore.
04-25-2019, 12:55 PM
#9
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 53
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Wildcat basically answered your question. The market does show that AA’s strategy is not working but I don’t think Envoy mgmt’s seething contempt for it’s mostly well-meaning line employees is really part of that. It has more to do with charging Delta prices for Spirit service with a large helping of exposure to bitter, angry customer facing employees you can’t get in such a concentration at any other airline.
04-25-2019, 01:14 PM
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 428
I wonder if AAG is aware that the flow is going to bring in a bunch of bitter regional folks that are hell bent at getting their due and proper after being beat up for the previous 7-9 years.
There is alot of side effect to this regional game. FUPM won't just be a regional cry, it'll be a mainline way of life from now till infinity. MAAGA
There is alot of side effect to this regional game. FUPM won't just be a regional cry, it'll be a mainline way of life from now till infinity. MAAGA
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
