So now they are expecting agents to pull the jetbridge before we get our closeouts? Can’t wait to see how that *******show works out. Good luck ever getting our performance bonus again.

It's pretty disgusting. One of the worst aspects I've seen is this obsession with getting out on time. I had to console a passenger who ran to the gate as the agent was printing the paperwork, proceed to ignore him as the paperwork finish printing, say there was nothing she could do and go down the bridge.

He started screaming during this. That's where I stepped in, apologizing, trying to get another agent to reopen the flight. He and I watched as the plane sat at the gate for an additional 25 minutes because the fuel truck pulled up as he started yelling.

Dude missed his best friend's funeral.

It's disgusting.

This place is an embarrassment.

#GOINGFORGREATish

Ok that also happened to my friend on an SkyWest operated Delta flight so I’m pretty sure it’s kinda just the standard rule to close the door and go even if the aircraft sits there afterwards.

I’m not saying this is ok, I honestly don’t see why we (or any other airline for that matter) can’t simply open the jetbridge door if it’s for a reason like fueling, or most likely, waiting for the tampers to close the cargo door....


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Honestly the place is what it is and it’s not going to change.

I recently left and move onto better things (not a lateral). Wouldn’t have been possible if I didn’t fly 2000+ hours in 2.5ish years.

The flow has value insomuch as I never sat reserve as an FO or a CA. But even with only 18 months or so to flow, I still got the hell out. I was thy sweet spot 2016 hiring window.

You just have to accept the fact the place is what it is and make the it work best for you, also no point getting riled up over stupid procedures that ultimately screw the passengers. If they’re so worried about metrics, the metrics are already speaking for themselves with Spirit getting higher ratings than AA.

I got mine don't care

There I shortened it for you

Not my job to care about passengers, not until door is closed and I'm blocked out. I dont do volunteer work for envoy. There rules there passengers. Wait till mid summer.

I hate to say it, but the passengers are not our customer. AA is our customer and AA only cares about D+0. Start slipping hard on that, and watch AA shift flying. It’s terrible customer service and only makes their public image much worse imo, but when you start looking at it from that lens, things start making a bit more sense.

Envoy Pilot Recruitment
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A new pilot hired today is projected to flow to American Airlines in just under six years. Why leave your career up to chance? At Envoy, you can join a growing company with the best fleet and earn a great salary doing what you love. Apply today!

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A new pilot today is projected to flow to American Airlines in just under 9.5 years. Why try to get hired elsewhere in the biggest wave of pilot shortage in decades? you know you wont get “the call”. At Envoy, you can join a growing company with the best fleet flying old 140’s that have been sitting in the desert for years with no APU during the summer while we encourage you to fly fast, leave passengers and jumpseaters behind and earn a great but not so great salary as PSA, Republic, Endeavor and other peers flying similar jets because you know they wont get “the call” and you already got it but in 9.5 years and we will take the fun out of doing what you love. Apply today!

Fixed it for you envoy pilot recruitment.

#FUPM #MEGA

Good luck getting it anyways. Since they changed it at the beginning of the year, we have not got it once. It was always a high number, well outside of our control.

You mean like they have been for 5 years, your a little late for that tid bit.
Skw, rah and mesa have worse records than envoy and aag is going to beat envoy down and not the others. Dont worry, you have flow.

AA is our customer from a fee for departure standpoint, but that doesn't mean that your passengers need to sweat, etc., just because AA is worshipping at the cult of D-0. We can be professionals and run the APU all day everyday for their comfort...

Don't worry, other work groups at mainline seem to want to make this a Summer of Love anyway.

Last few airplanes I have flown have no apu...they have eliminated that option.

Daddy when I grow up I want to be a airline pilot....( Neighbor was a pilot who worked for Envoy). Dad why is that guy always drinking and cussing? Son... trust me you don’t want to be a airline pilot.

Unless someone can fly for the military first, I actively try and persuade people away from this industry.

Wait. You’re saying the CP was actually in the office??

They are there, just on their time and never when you need them.