Employee Morale All Time LOW
05-16-2019, 08:29 AM
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Employee Morale All Time LOW
I haven’t seen employee morale so low since 2014 when we weren’t hiring and people were flowing on reserve. Today, first officers are realizing they made a big mistake coming here. Their company pride is GONE. Flow is not worth low pay and quality life. Forced displacements and tdy. Pay is a HUGE problem that could be fixed. We are professionals and should be paid like professionals. Just sad that the company continues to let their image sink further and further!
Mesa > Envoy
Mesa > Envoy
05-16-2019, 08:55 AM
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I was doing my trip the other day with an FO and he was a RTP guy.
He said they most certainly sold the flow to him, but he also said he felt lied to in regards to flow times.
He also told me 3 people from his class alone jumped ship to greener pastures as well.
RTP guys are happy, because I guess they’re not flying in the forces anymore, but many are without a clue as to how bad things really are here.
A d@mn shame really.
He said they most certainly sold the flow to him, but he also said he felt lied to in regards to flow times.
He also told me 3 people from his class alone jumped ship to greener pastures as well.
RTP guys are happy, because I guess they’re not flying in the forces anymore, but many are without a clue as to how bad things really are here.
A d@mn shame really.
05-16-2019, 09:10 AM
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. I always tried to go the extra mile really but it became increasingly hard to see how others get so much more in quality of life and compensation.
Now I just show up, i fly, i’m out.
Not to mention being called to the CPO to give an explanation on why i called in sick as if i was a 15 year old who skipped school. I am in my mid 30’s and consider myself a professional. I feel i deserve better than have to show up and say “I had diarreah and i did not think i could go to the lavatory in my e145 on a Waco turn.”
Good thing is i have noticed an increase in first officers and captains who are updating their apps EVERYWHERE.
Lets keep doing our jobs, standby and wait for our Unions response and take it from there.
Now I just show up, i fly, i’m out.
Not to mention being called to the CPO to give an explanation on why i called in sick as if i was a 15 year old who skipped school. I am in my mid 30’s and consider myself a professional. I feel i deserve better than have to show up and say “I had diarreah and i did not think i could go to the lavatory in my e145 on a Waco turn.”
Good thing is i have noticed an increase in first officers and captains who are updating their apps EVERYWHERE.
Lets keep doing our jobs, standby and wait for our Unions response and take it from there.
05-16-2019, 09:12 AM
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How does the union (and company) view informational picketing on company property? I can only assume it's a definite no-no. I just wonder how effective some actual pilot employees, in the flesh, would be at passing along raw data prior to newhire interviews.
05-16-2019, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jumpseatcrawler
. I always tried to go the extra mile really but it became increasingly hard to see how others get so much more in quality of life and compensation.
Now I just show up, i fly, i’m out.
Not to mention being called to the CPO to give an explanation on why i called in sick as if i was a 15 year old who skipped school. I am in my mid 30’s and consider myself a professional. I feel i deserve better than have to show up and say “I had diarreah and i did not think i could go to the lavatory in my e145 on a Waco turn.”
Good thing is i have noticed an increase in first officers and captains who are updating their apps EVERYWHERE.
Lets keep doing our jobs, standby and wait for our Unions response and take it from there.
Now I just show up, i fly, i’m out.
Not to mention being called to the CPO to give an explanation on why i called in sick as if i was a 15 year old who skipped school. I am in my mid 30’s and consider myself a professional. I feel i deserve better than have to show up and say “I had diarreah and i did not think i could go to the lavatory in my e145 on a Waco turn.”
Good thing is i have noticed an increase in first officers and captains who are updating their apps EVERYWHERE.
Lets keep doing our jobs, standby and wait for our Unions response and take it from there.
05-16-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrpilot
How does the union (and company) view informational picketing on company property? I can only assume it's a definite no-no. I just wonder how effective some actual pilot employees, in the flesh, would be at passing along raw data prior to newhire interviews.
Remember ANYONE can see this online message boards.
05-16-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrpilot
How does the union (and company) view informational picketing on company property? I can only assume it's a definite no-no. I just wonder how effective some actual pilot employees, in the flesh, would be at passing along raw data prior to newhire interviews.
05-16-2019, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrpilot
Well, trying to delete my comment but my phone doesn't show the option. I'll delete it once I get to a PC. Point taken, my apologies.
Last edited by pitchattitude; 05-16-2019 at 12:37 PM.
05-16-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
I haven’t seen employee morale so low since 2014 when we weren’t hiring and people were flowing on reserve. Today, first officers are realizing they made a big mistake coming here. Their company pride is GONE. Flow is not worth low pay and quality life. Forced displacements and tdy. Pay is a HUGE problem that could be fixed. We are professionals and should be paid like professionals. Just sad that the company continues to let their image sink further and further!
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Mesa > Envoy
Alright You have to be smoking something or you weren’t here in 2014. It’s ten times better here than in 2014 based on every metric. Hyperbole aside we have become a bottom regional based on pretty much every metric. QOL/Pay (end of the month pay check is very far behind) ect.....
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