Employee Morale All Time LOW
05-16-2019 | 02:08 PM
#11
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Not arguing with the premise. I agree, it's inappropriate for the company to ask about your personal medical information. If the company asks what illness you had, you could say "Dr. HIPAA said I didn't have to tell you."
05-16-2019 | 02:21 PM
#12
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Strikes are of course tightly controlled, but picketing in the context of organized labor is pretty much protected activity at any time. Probably best to coordinate with the union first...
05-16-2019 | 08:49 PM
#14
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Anytime a company is handing out big bonuses to new hires instead of paying their current employees should be a red flag.
I don't feel bad for any FO who had buyers remorse. They did this to themselves when they failed to do their research before coming here, and they screwed over all the senior pilots by accepting the bonuses allowing the company to keep the pay scale low.
Welcome to envoy and their management. This is nothing compared to 2014. What did you all expect knowing how they treated the pilots back then?
I don't feel bad for any FO who had buyers remorse. They did this to themselves when they failed to do their research before coming here, and they screwed over all the senior pilots by accepting the bonuses allowing the company to keep the pay scale low.
Welcome to envoy and their management. This is nothing compared to 2014. What did you all expect knowing how they treated the pilots back then?
05-16-2019 | 09:05 PM
#16
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Anytime a company is handing out big bonuses to new hires instead of paying their current employees should be a red flag.
I don't feel bad for any FO who had buyers remorse. They did this to themselves when they failed to do their research before coming here, and they screwed over all the senior pilots by accepting the bonuses allowing the company to keep the pay scale low.
Welcome to envoy and their management. This is nothing compared to 2014. What did you all expect knowing how they treated the pilots back then?
I don't feel bad for any FO who had buyers remorse. They did this to themselves when they failed to do their research before coming here, and they screwed over all the senior pilots by accepting the bonuses allowing the company to keep the pay scale low.
Welcome to envoy and their management. This is nothing compared to 2014. What did you all expect knowing how they treated the pilots back then?
The first year looks good, but at what cost?
05-16-2019 | 09:10 PM
#17
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Many that are Envoy now weren’t even pilots then, let alone at Eagle. I had about eight or ten resumes and apps just put in the mail the week of 9/11 and thought I was headed to a major. I was unemployed shortly after and still won’t be at a major any time soon.
05-16-2019 | 10:05 PM
#18
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This is 2019 now. Present time, with a pilot group that is going through their own struggles with management as well.
Stop living in the past. We’re not there anymore. Learn from it.
We’re fighting an uphill battle as it is and to play tit for tat on who had it worse isn’t helping anyone.
05-17-2019 | 02:15 AM
#19
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Okay, we understand that that you’ve been dragged through the mud.I can’t even begin to fathom the hardships you had to go through.
This is 2019 now. Present time, with a pilot group that is going through their own struggles with management as well.
Stop living in the past. We’re not there anymore. Learn from it.
We’re fighting an uphill battle as it is and to play tit for tat on who had it worse isn’t helping anyone.
This is 2019 now. Present time, with a pilot group that is going through their own struggles with management as well.
Stop living in the past. We’re not there anymore. Learn from it.
We’re fighting an uphill battle as it is and to play tit for tat on who had it worse isn’t helping anyone.
It's the same reason there are pain scales in hospitals, you can't just say that stomach pain is a 5 across the board, people feel it differently based on what pain they have felt in the past.
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