Airline Pilot Central Forums

Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional > Envoy Airlines
Envoy from ACMI >

Envoy from ACMI

Register
FAQ
Advertising
Calendar
Search
Today's Posts
Mark Forums Read

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

Envoy from ACMI

Page 1 of 5
1
2
3
4
5
   
Old 05-26-2019 | 05:32 PM
  #1  
ncflyer's Avatar
ncflyer
Thread Starter
On Reserve
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default Envoy from ACMI
I’m at an ACMI with a 16/14 schedule and looking to move to something with a more livable schedule for a family. Out of all the AA wholly owned, it looks like Envoy has the best flow through. I have around 600 hrs 121 time and I’d like the Miami base if I come to Envoy. How long are reserve times from DOH for captains in Miami or Dallas? I like the idea of working for PSA, Piedmont or Envoy. I can live in Charlotte or Miami. Any recommendations based on historic and current conditions?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 06:02 PM
  #2  
Varsity
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,285
Likes: 0
From: 175 CA
Default
Don't come here for flow. It will take a decade+, if it even exists at that point.
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 06:08 PM
  #3  
Wink
Line Holder
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 640
Likes: 0
Default
Originally Posted by ncflyer
I’m at an ACMI with a 16/14 schedule and looking to move to something with a more livable schedule for a family. Out of all the AA wholly owned, it looks like Envoy has the best flow through. I have around 600 hrs 121 time and I’d like the Miami base if I come to Envoy. How long are reserve times from DOH for captains in Miami or Dallas? I like the idea of working for PSA, Piedmont or Envoy. I can live in Charlotte or Miami. Any recommendations based on historic and current conditions?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
PDT has mostly 4 on 2 off type schedules. Sometimes you may work fewer than 4 or have more than 2 off but 4/2 is typically how the lines are built. Not great compared to our sister companies, or the entire industry for that matter. If QOL is the goal, I would pick PSA or ENY if you HAD to come to an AA WO... but if I were you I would probably be shooting for a Major. Spirit/JB/Frontier all hiring....
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 06:13 PM
  #4  
BIueSideUp's Avatar
BIueSideUp
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
From: Fetal
Default
Yea aim for mainline, then JB, Spirit, etc.. If for some reason you're dead set on AA w/o then go to PSA for pay and qol. As stated on other threads, they have better rates and make out even better in other areas that have them crediting way more hours than a typical Envoy pilot. Don't come here for MIA either. It's fairly senior for the most part and not going to see any significant growth. You might get there but you'll be reserve on the 145 until you can find a better job.
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 06:15 PM
  #5  
EnyFlyr
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Default
Originally Posted by ncflyer
I’d like the Miami base if I come to Envoy. I can live in Charlotte or Miami. Any recommendations based on historic and current conditions?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You will play Russian roulette if you want to be based in Miami.
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 06:31 PM
  #6  
NoValueAviator
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,547
Likes: 0
From: Resigned
Default
MIA is shrinking quite a bit. AA is giving Republic as much of our east coast flying as they can staff, leaving our bases super senior and very stagnant. I’d go to PSA in your shoes, or my shoes if I had a do-over.
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 06:45 PM
  #7  
Shiner
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Default
It’s running about a year and a half to hold MIA in the left seat currently. It’s a fairly small and stagnant base for us, so chances are that’s not going to come down much.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 08:20 PM
  #8  
MochaSwirl
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Default
Don’t help the help, until they pay us. Shoot for the stars, go major.

#FUPM
Reply
0
Old 05-26-2019 | 10:41 PM
  #9  
HalyardJammer
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Default
The envoy projected flow is misleading. It's much closer to 10 years than 6.
Reply
0
Old 05-27-2019 | 05:15 AM
  #10  
Phoenix21
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 310
Likes: 0
Default
Originally Posted by ncflyer
I’m at an ACMI with a 16/14 schedule and looking to move to something with a more livable schedule for a family. Out of all the AA wholly owned, it looks like Envoy has the best flow through. I have around 600 hrs 121 time and I’d like the Miami base if I come to Envoy. How long are reserve times from DOH for captains in Miami or Dallas? I like the idea of working for PSA, Piedmont or Envoy. I can live in Charlotte or Miami. Any recommendations based on historic and current conditions?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Piedmont has the worst pay, schedules and QOL of any of the three AA Wholly Owned regionals. The five year flow on the company website is a blatant misestimation/lie. Expect a 9.5-10 year flow as a new hire. Line holding CA in CLT is taking about 3.5 years.

You’re best off going to PSA.
Reply
0
Page 1 of 5
1
2
3
4
5
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Atlas Air Hiring
1st Supersonic
Atlas/Polar
20692
04-19-2026 01:58 AM
Envoy Aircraft Assignments
FortyOneMk2
Envoy Airlines
89
04-26-2023 07:24 AM
New Envoy Information
Skyvector
Envoy Airlines
6966
06-18-2022 11:07 AM
Envoy airlines hiring
Romulus
Envoy Airlines
16
10-15-2014 05:47 PM
Good Bye Envoy
AllisonRR
Envoy Airlines
45
10-07-2014 05:54 PM
Back to Subforum
Envoy Airlines
View Next Unread
Envoy Cadet Program

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Your Privacy Choices