Originally Posted by Jumpseatcrawler (Post 2833605)

It is not that simple. I have met guys from the negotiations MEC. They honestly work hard for us. Negotiations take time and we all need to be united. Turning our backs on our union would be like shooting ourselves in the foot.

We will win this fight, there is NO WAY in this kind of pilot hiring climate that Envoy will keep up running its operation smoothly. I will standby and await for my unions instructions. In the mean time, i show up, fly my contract and go home as soon as the last passenger deboards.

Dont get me wrong, I too feel frustrated. I really hope prospective envoy pilots read this forums and understand this is not the time to come here. Wait til we are paid what we deserve. You will be thanking yourselves in the future.

UNITY!

Originally Posted by Jumpseatcrawler (Post 2833605)

It is not that simple. I have met guys from the negotiations MEC. They honestly work hard for us. Negotiations take time and we all need to be united. Turning our backs on our union would be like shooting ourselves in the foot.

We will win this fight, there is NO WAY in this kind of pilot hiring climate that Envoy will keep up running its operation smoothly. I will standby and await for my unions instructions. In the mean time, i show up, fly my contract and go home as soon as the last passenger deboards.

Dont get me wrong, I too feel frustrated. I really hope prospective envoy pilots read this forums and understand this is not the time to come here. Wait til we are paid what we deserve. You will be thanking yourselves in the future.

UNITY!

Originally Posted by blackbox348 (Post 2833607)

Remember, the likelihood of pop up thunderstorms exponentially increases in the summers. AOM 1 requires that when taxiways are slippery or wet that we taxi on two engines. May cost the company more than $15/hour for fuel, but one can’t put a price on safety.

Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2833598)

I don't really lay this at the feet of our MEC. Last time I personally talked to someone on the negotiating committee (pretty recent), the company hadn't really been open to anything ANYONE here would accept.

It's like management needs to see this place burn a little before they see the light.

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2833697)

I find that the pressure to get the aircraft setup, keep passengers safe, monitor the boarding process etc are all far more important than getting the aircraft setup and navigation put in. Therefore, I wait until the brake drops and the flight is on the clock to run the numbers, enter route, setup performance and such.

Doing it this way ensures that the safety of the passengers is at the forefront of my attention. Once they are safely boarded and we are not under a D+0 crunch, I can then direct my attention to the safety of the passengers in terms of the actual operation of the aircraft. This also allows for proper weather briefings, route briefing and taxi briefings, again, for the safety of the passengers.

Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot (Post 2833822)

Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2833929)

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2833124)

Where’s the data that supports the flow is 8.5 years?


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Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2833697)

I find that the pressure to get the aircraft setup, keep passengers safe, monitor the boarding process etc are all far more important than getting the aircraft setup and navigation put in. Therefore, I wait until the brake drops and the flight is on the clock to run the numbers, enter route, setup performance and such.

Doing it this way ensures that the safety of the passengers is at the forefront of my attention. Once they are safely boarded and we are not under a D+0 crunch, I can then direct my attention to the safety of the passengers in terms of the actual operation of the aircraft. This also allows for proper weather briefings, route briefing and taxi briefings, again, for the safety of the passengers.

Originally Posted by Toolbox9909 (Post 2835476)

That's sounds great, but the company's will start giving you less than 300lbs of gas between gate to the Runway at ORD and DFW.

In other words from Pedro "we too can play that game"...

FUPM

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2835503)

Guess we return to gate if we need more fuel. Safety first.

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2833697)

I find that the pressure to get the aircraft setup, keep passengers safe, monitor the boarding process etc are all far more important than getting the aircraft setup and navigation put in. Therefore, I wait until the brake drops and the flight is on the clock to run the numbers, enter route, setup performance and such.

Doing it this way ensures that the safety of the passengers is at the forefront of my attention. Once they are safely boarded and we are not under a D+0 crunch, I can then direct my attention to the safety of the passengers in terms of the actual operation of the aircraft. This also allows for proper weather briefings, route briefing and taxi briefings, again, for the safety of the passengers.