Envoy EOW 175
 

Rumor on the block is the most recent 175 delivery is EOW equipped.

175s to MIA confirmed!!

What's the newest tails? Will look up the BOW in DECS.

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280NN

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No, its Bermuda turns from dca.

Is this the thread where we revive talk of taking over YX flying out of MIA via DFW? Anyone know if AA’s keeping them around?

AA will not get rid of anyone else. RAH, SKW, MESA, PDT, PSA and ENY
Will remain, and the flying awarded will be like a shell game.

Honestly I’m more concerned about our bottom of industry pay than if our 175s have life vest and rafts, not even those will save this sinking ship if we don’t get fair compensation soon.

FIFY

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AAG owns 26% of Republic, they aren’t leaving anytime soon. I say banish them to PHL and leave them there.

I can already see a non EOW 175 being accidentally dispatched to the Caribbean and the pilots losing their certificates.

Companies have ETOPS and non ETOPS aircraft of the same type, hopefully some good digital stop gap mechanism will be put in place to remove the human error factor.

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Yeah... You going to trust ENVOY to protect your certificate??!!

You know better than that.

HA, You wish!

PSA and piedmont can keep that crap hole.

And there is even less chance of Dougie and company leaving Mesa in the dirt.

Already posted elsewhere. 080/081 have 2 rafts.

You think they will put that in the aom plus tech notice on procedures.
Bunch of bufoons

And update the opspec.. and send every 175 pilot through eow training during recurrent.

Or we can just post more 175 nonsense.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that...

Don’t forget about sending every pilot and FA through ditching training.


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While I dont know "why" we are getting them that way, I am fairly certain we will never fly them in that opspec. The training, procedures, not to mention the changing of manuals and not being able to use them for Canadian flying all point to this being a non-event.

Maybe we are flying them until Republic can staff them.

If this is really happening, it's not a big deal to implement it. The training should be a non event. At Republic, they just have some extra slides in their CBTs about it. Don't have to jump in the pool. And if they aren't retrofitting the other planes, they'll use those for the Canada flying.

I just don’t see them locking a few planes into one type of flying. Envoy is constantly moving planes around.

At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter and I guess the plan will surface eventually. I could be totally wrong, I will give you that.

279MQ is on property. Don’t know if that is equipped or not, and unsure of the reason for the change in the registration format.

Envoy EOW 175
 

LAX to HNL

We will probably hear one of these days. There are several that have the letters changed to the initials of someone to honor them for one reason or another.

MQ is the IATA code for Envoy, the Original American Eagle, and prior to that Simmons one of the original five American Eagles. Paying homage to the lineage.

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My point was, were are supposed getting aircraft with certain equipment added to the aircraft, it has to be in the aom for there location, what they are, what they for.
Its required by faa, even if we are not flying eow.
Just like the added antennas to some aircraft, nothing in the aom.
Backward bufoons.

We need to make sure new hires know that pilots of the E175 get paid more for flying these aircraft at Envoy. Just check out the pay scales for the “large RJ” / small widebody! Also, each time you fly an aircraft equipped with a life raft, you earn a $20 override on top of your already higher hourly rate. Not to mention they actually have first class seating so the tips are going to be even better on these planes. Who needs a raise when we can use these awesome EOW 175s as a recruiting tool?!

For my edification, why does ETOPS equipped prevent Canadian operations? I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs of ETOPS

They said it adds 500 pounds to the eow aircraft and the dfw to Canada flights would be affected. Personally I believe it to be b.s.

NOT ETOPS, EOW, Extended Over Water. Two completely different things. Although ETOPS is definitely extended WAY over water!

Whether or not the EOW is a fact or not, 500 lbs is 500 lbs. If you’ve done any of the Canada stuff out of DFW, particularly in winter, and need an alternate you have to bump pax. 500 pounds of gas is a couple of revenue pax that might be left behind. And as much as the company complains about hauling extra gas, they aren’t going to haul extra equipment all over the system that is not necessary.

Damn scope.

Extended over water allows an aircraft to fly beyond 50NM from the coast line.

ETOPS = Extended Twin engine operations.

This allows an operator to fly a twin engine aircraft greater than one hour at single engine cruise speed from an alternate airport. There are different tiers of ETOPS, 120 minute and 180 minute. This does not apply to three and four engine aircraft.

A MEL for an ETOPS aircraft is a lot more stringent than for a non ETOPS. It is possible for an aircraft to be still airworthy but downgraded to non ETOPS compliant. Also maintenance intervals for ETOPS aircraft are more frequent.



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One of the most important thing we have!

Otherwise this B scale outfit would get huge.

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I was referring to the 500 lbs of weight when clearly the 175 can handle it. :D

I understand your points, mine was that they are not going to have 90 e75's eow'd it's my guess more like ten. So the dfw excuse is b.s. as a whole.

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We already have 7P pages for SXM, I think this had been looked at before.

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