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uavking 10-16-2019 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2906294)
I’ve thought about trying to find a black Army wind breaker with epaulets. Don’t know if that is still part of the Army uniform and if they’re available or not.

The officer windbreaker is still a thing with Class B’s and clothing sales sells them for about $100.

https://www.shopmyexchange.com/offic...jacket/1566882

skyemiles2 10-16-2019 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by uavking (Post 2905855)
In an ideal world we would have a soft shell as a uniform option (see Alaska with their Transition Jacket or Southwest with their Karbon Aviator jacket). It would be lightweight/packable, water/wind resistant, and usable with civvies. However, that makes way too much sense, and that’s exactly why you’ll never see it here.

I would love to see a Karbon jacket approved. What we have is bulky and not practical at all.

pitchattitude 10-16-2019 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by uavking (Post 2905855)
In an ideal world we would have a soft shell as a uniform option (see Alaska with their Transition Jacket or Southwest with their Karbon Aviator jacket). It would be lightweight/packable, water/wind resistant, and usable with civvies. However, that makes way too much sense, and that’s exactly why you’ll never see it here.

Would be great.

Like you said. Great idea. It will never happen at Envoy.

tsimmns927 10-17-2019 03:18 PM

Not even a pilot just a lurker on here, but would a solid black fleece work? If so you can find them dirt cheap at Coleman’s Military Surplus in solid black made from Polartec like we use in the military minus the name tape parts. I wear one for my current job and it’s nice and cozy.

HalyardJammer 10-17-2019 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by tsimmns927 (Post 2907395)
Not even a pilot just a lurker on here, but would a solid black fleece work? If so you can find them dirt cheap at Coleman’s Military Surplus in solid black made from Polartec like we use in the military minus the name tape parts. I wear one for my current job and it’s nice and cozy.

This thread is more about "Will I get in trouble if I go out of uniform?" Our manual says we're only allowed to wear twin hill uniform pieces, however the general is, "look professional and you'll likely be left alone." Just a question of do you want to take the risk?

That said, I despise our new overcoat. I like the gestapo jacket. I also liked the zip up jacket twin hill had, the zipper on mine doesn't work anymore.

Cyio 10-18-2019 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 2907620)
This thread is more about "Will I get in trouble if I go out of uniform?" Our manual says we're only allowed to wear twin hill uniform pieces, however the general is, "look professional and you'll likely be left alone." Just a question of do you want to take the risk?

That said, I despise our new overcoat. I like the gestapo jacket. I also liked the zip up jacket twin hill had, the zipper on mine doesn't work anymore.

Take it to a tailor and have a new quality zipper installed. Might cost $25 and whalla new coat you like.

HalyardJammer 10-18-2019 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2907763)
Take it to a tailor and have a new quality zipper installed. Might cost $25 and whalla new coat you like.

Yeah I was thinking about that as I wrote my post.

black cat 10-18-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by uavking (Post 2904998)
That was something you could do with the optional purchase Twin Hill zip sweater. It was designed to be worn that way (per the Twin Hill collection look book) and was allowed as such at mainline. Down here it existed in a gray area. Since we still don't have a clear uniform standard, you'll see it on those who bought it when it was available.

Interesting! The company language on uniforms is ... lacking. Especially with the forced switch to a new supplier that provides so little options.

Did mainline/APA have any real say in this uniform? What is their policy in sweaters and non MH overcoats/trench,pea coats?

As long as we look professional does anyone really care?


Originally Posted by jake cutter (Post 2905299)
And don’t be the guy who wears the blazer over the sweater.

The AA FOM specifically says the sweater can be worn only under the blazer. Only company approved overcoats are approved.

BigZ 10-18-2019 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2908253)
The AA FOM specifically says the sweater can be worn only under the blazer. Only company approved overcoats are approved.

It also says the sweater has to be navy in color, which makes it a leftover language from pre-TH uniform

Naviator 10-19-2019 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2907763)
Take it to a tailor and have a new quality zipper installed. Might cost $25 and whalla new coat you like.

Voila!

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