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ERAUAV8TR 10-22-2019 05:10 PM

Late Penalty: 20 Credits
 
Can we expect the loa 20 hour credit late penalty on next pay check?

Sorry for the confusion.

Pedro4President 10-23-2019 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2910712)
Can we expect the loa 20 hour credit late penalty on next pay check?

Sorry for the confusion.

Lol. Nope.

buddies8 10-23-2019 03:22 AM

Sorry fell off my chair laughing, no, no way union doing anything.

NoValueAviator 10-23-2019 04:06 AM

We all saw the union as a joke, and now it is. Maybe it always was. They betrayed us on the AIP/pay raise negotiation, and we’re probably about to elect a 22 y/o management sociopath with no discernible qualifications to the MEC in NY.

ALPA is already on the long list of enemies the average Envoy pilot has to worry about messing up his job imo. If they had anything else to give away, it’d be a bigger problem and everyone would be talking about it. But since we have an almost universally anti-pilot contract, I think we’re mostly safe from further QOL erosion.

ENH017 10-23-2019 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2910913)
We all saw the union as a joke, and now it is. Maybe it always was. They betrayed us on the AIP/pay raise negotiation, and we’re probably about to elect a 22 y/o management sociopath with no discernible qualifications to the MEC in NY.

ALPA is already on the long list of enemies the average Envoy pilot has to worry about messing up his job imo. If they had anything else to give away, it’d be a bigger problem and everyone would be talking about it. But since we have an almost universally anti-pilot contract, I think we’re mostly safe from further QOL erosion.

You realize you could probably get together 20 of your friends and show up to these meetings to vote everyone out and replace them with yourselves?

It's much easier to complain anonymously about it on the internet though so let's keep doing that I guess.

Cyio 10-23-2019 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 2911096)
You realize you could probably get together 20 of your friends and show up to these meetings to vote everyone out and replace them with yourselves?

It's much easier to complain anonymously about it on the internet though so let's keep doing that I guess.

This is sadly true.

copycopy 10-23-2019 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2910913)
We all saw the union as a joke, and now it is. Maybe it always was. They betrayed us on the AIP/pay raise negotiation, and we’re probably about to elect a 22 y/o management sociopath with no discernible qualifications to the MEC in NY.

ALPA is already on the long list of enemies the average Envoy pilot has to worry about messing up his job imo. If they had anything else to give away, it’d be a bigger problem and everyone would be talking about it. But since we have an almost universally anti-pilot contract, I think we’re mostly safe from further QOL erosion.

Once again the pilots are the pilots’ worst enemy. The pilots only have themselves to blame for their dissatisfaction in representation. Voting is a thing — recalls are a thing. Don’t blame the rest of the volunteers working hard on the numerous committees, or those negotiating with an adversary that negotiates in bad faith.

The reps are the ones who vote on resolutions, LOAs, TAs, committee chairmen, MEC officers, and whatnot, and the pilots are who elect the reps.

If a self serving or ill-equipped rep is elected to be a status rep, that’s not ALPAs fault, that’s the fault of the pilot group.

The continued apathy among the pilots as it pertains to their representation will be irreparably harmful over the next several years. People don’t start caring until the feces hit the fan.

CheewiesCopilot 10-25-2019 10:55 AM

Wait so some of you have been payed late ?

Cyio 10-25-2019 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by CheewiesCopilot (Post 2912495)
Wait so some of you have been payed late ?

They didn’t have everyone paid in full what was owed per the loa.

CheewiesCopilot 10-25-2019 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2912682)
They didn’t have everyone paid in full what was owed per the loa.

That sucks. Should I reconsider going to Envoy?


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