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Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2928993)

Also you dont make it cheaper at regionals just to get your flow because then there is always a cheaper alternative. When and if flow stops it will be to late to fight for things. You will barely keep what you have.

If you keep the regionals as a cheap operation, why would mainline bring flying back to mainline. Please dont mention the hiring for the next 10 years, one big world screw up and that's all out the window. You play the averages, you all are putting all the eggs in one basket.

While 90% (NOT 99.9) may think all they want is more flow, QOL needs to improve for everyone, without giving up for more flow. Even with the recent raises, pilots are already giving up pay for that flow. The flow needs to be a lot more in quantity and frequency for what the pay is. That’s not likely to happen, but QOL improvements, specifically to reserve rules and schedules could be really improved without too much cost. The biggest cost would be to management and Crew Scheduling egos.

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2928935)

The other reality is The Envoy is a diverse pilot group with diverse desires. There needs to be all groups represented.

Management has just one desire. Keep their costs to an absolute low while while simultaneously keeping pilot morale and expectations even lower.

one word PILOT STRIKE !!!! jk

Look on the bright side, you could be like PSA where we have the MEC Chair, Vice Chair, and 3 of 6 voting reps are lifers.

Guess how bid their raises were back in April. Can't really blame them for that, because there weren't any real concessions attached, but it was a nice chunk of change, nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by CheewiesCopilot (Post 2929051)

one word PILOT STRIKE !!!! jk

Three things:

1. That's two words.

2. Pilots have gotten some pretty serious carpet dances for posting crap like that online. You want to bet your career on your anonymity on APC?

3. One 'e.'

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Originally Posted by CheewiesCopilot (Post 2929051)

one word PILOT STRIKE !!!! jk

Yo man. You have described yourself as an applicant/candidate.

You might want to lock that kind of talk up.

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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 2929069)

Yo man. You have described yourself as an applicant/candidate.

You might want to lock that kind of talk up.

No one can take a joke.

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Originally Posted by CheewiesCopilot (Post 2929128)

No one can take a joke.

Jokes aside, mgmt takes those jokes seriously. CYA.

Fair point boss. Thankfully I'm a corporate pilot

Negotiating Committee

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Originally Posted by CheewiesCopilot (Post 2929131)

Fair point boss. Thankfully I'm a corporate pilot

Oh my God someone said strike. Where is your humanity. You should be burned at the stake for such a joke! :)

[MENTION=90230]CheewiesCopilot[/MENTION], the fear conditioning here is real.

Come one, come all for the flow, and witness the greatest ****show on earth! The future face of pilots at mainline will be interesting to witness. AAG will have a ball.

The taste of defeated Labor is a delight, they (executives) will savory it as long as possible before they swallow.

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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 2928604)

It was brought to my attention that the new negotiating committee chairman is a lifer at envoy. My understanding is that 99.9% of the pilot group wants to flow, therefore this chairman doesn’t align with the pilot’s view. Just some food for thought!

“In Unity”

If the same chairman is a CA, can he represent the FOs? Of course he can. Get over it.