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12-19-2019 | 10:01 AM

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slantgolf

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Originally Posted by Av8tor0773

How long would one expect to spend on reserve?
What are likely bases right out of training?
What is the likely AC?

I’m considering Envoy and trying to figure out exactly what I’ll be getting into.

Unless you are a cadet, plan on getting the 145 and probably in laguardia.

Cadets can expect the 175, often in ord.

Reserve time varies a lot, but 8 months to a year. Is likely.

01-06-2020 | 06:24 PM

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Skigsfly

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Are NHs sent home to do the CBTs during initial?

01-06-2020 | 06:36 PM

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pitchattitude

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Are NHs sent home to do the CBTs during initial?

You have the option to do so. The default is the company expects you to leave so they don’t make reservations for you to stay. If you want to stay, you have to request the hotel.

01-07-2020 | 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude

You have the option to do so. The default is the company expects you to leave so they don’t make reservations for you to stay. If you want to stay, you have to request the hotel.

But don't leave because of that. Leave if it's what you want and it's convenient. New hires are eager to please the company until the discover it makes no difference, the company doesn't treat you better as a result of trying to do them a favor.

01-07-2020 | 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HalyardJammer

...the company doesn't treat you better as a result of trying to do them a favor.

This is definitely truth.

01-07-2020 | 10:31 AM

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pitchattitude

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Originally Posted by HalyardJammer

Wasn’t implying you SHOULD leave, just that you have to make sure the reservation is made if you plan to stay.

01-29-2020 | 10:53 PM

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Aquilotti1

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Hiring question

I need to get some clarification on this but how hard would it be to get hired by Envoy once you completed all your ratings and the 1500 required hours WITHOUT any degrees?

What is the realistic time you would spend on the flow thru program before getting upgraded to the major airline?

Thank you

01-30-2020 | 04:21 AM

#28

Philbert81

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Originally Posted by Aquilotti1

I was hired without a 4 year and complete my 2 year later. I have flown with a lot of FOs that have no college. You will be fine, a 4 year degree is not needed at all to do this job.

01-30-2020 | 04:43 AM

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I was hired without a 4 year and complete my 2 year later. I have flown with a lot of FOs that have no college. You will be fine, a 4 year degree is not needed at all to do this job.

I agree that a degree is not necessarily needed to do this job. BUT a degree does better equip you and make you a more rounded individual as well as provide a backup.

AND as far as I know the flow with American WOs is the surest way to a major without one. That is why a lot of folks are still at Envoy.

I’m not trying to sell the Envoy flow, but it is a reality. A lack of a degree is a big hindrance to making it to a major.