Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2948789)

While I agree that there is work that needs to be done in the contract negotiations ongoing right now regarding soft pay and QOL (more so QOL), you have no idea what kind of income AA pilots are making. You can work the system and make money. We have narrowbody FOs with just a couple of years on property making over $200k or more. We have plenty of CAs making $3-400k+ a year. And the cream of the crop widebody CAs who really work it making well north of half a mil a year. Again, not taking anything away from Spirit. Great gig. Awesome QOL for those guys and still great pay. But there is a ton of money at AA to be had. But if you'd like to educate me on our contract further, by all means...

Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2948789)

While I agree that there is work that needs to be done in the contract negotiations ongoing right now regarding soft pay and QOL (more so QOL), you have no idea what kind of income AA pilots are making. You can work the system and make money. We have narrowbody FOs with just a couple of years on property making over $200k or more. We have plenty of CAs making $3-400k+ a year. And the cream of the crop widebody CAs who really work it making well north of half a mil a year. Again, not taking anything away from Spirit. Great gig. Awesome QOL for those guys and still great pay. But there is a ton of money at AA to be had. But if you'd like to educate me on our contract further, by all means...

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2948939)

You also have narrow body FO’s with 18 years on property. While what you say may be and likely is possible, what percentage of them are making that? My guess is that number is pretty small and going very senior.



What are your thoughts on the debt AA carries and does the union have any concern over that?

Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2949034)

The only 18 year FOs are there by choice.

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2949038)

Oh absolutely they are, I get that. I just wonder if these FO's making north of 200K are doing it because they are senior and can get these trips and credit due to them being that senior.

Can the average 3-5 year FO make that kind of money without being going 18 days a month?

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2949038)

Oh absolutely they are, I get that. I just wonder if these FO's making north of 200K are doing it because they are senior and can get these trips and credit due to them being that senior.

Can the average 3-5 year FO make that kind of money without being going 18 days a month?

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2949038)

Oh absolutely they are, I get that. I just wonder if these FO's making north of 200K are doing it because they are senior and can get these trips and credit due to them being that senior.

Can the average 3-5 year FO make that kind of money without being going 18 days a month?

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2949846)

I’m just past that range (737FO) and made well north of 200. I spend a lot of time at home. I live in base which is crucial.

Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2949856)

Yeah will take me about a decade to flow, but am very excited that is if AA is still in business or if the economy doesn’t tank...
“Facetious I am not”

Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2949882)

Trust me. AA isn't going anywhere. Not sure what you are worried about.

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2949846)

I’m just past that range (737FO) and made well north of 200. I spend a lot of time at home. I live in base which is crucial.

Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2949882)

Trust me. AA isn't going anywhere. Not sure what you are worried about.

Originally Posted by HobGoblin (Post 2949604)

I mean he says in the post you quoted the FOs doing it have only been there a few years.

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2949912)

Interesting and thank you for that information. All good news to be honest.



A fools game:

1. Trusting you
2. Thinking something won't ever happen.



I asked if the "average" FO can do it. Sure there are some that are in that time range that are, but would one consider that par for the course of guys/gals doing something extraordinary to make it happen.

Anyway, looks like it has been answered.

Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2950448)

I sure am interested in why you think AA will be going away. No way is the largest major going anywhere. More expanasion is the way things are going if you haven't noticed.