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6ix9ineYearFlow 01-23-2020 08:28 AM

1.4%
 
Enjoy hanging out for the flow. :D

Bassman1985 01-23-2020 08:41 AM

Looks like I’ll be able to afford to buy my old company iPad now!

Cyio 01-23-2020 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by 6ix9ineYearFlow (Post 2962543)
Enjoy hanging out for the flow. :D

Great, what did I miss now? Is that our profit sharing? If it is, the Delta employees must be laughing at us all the way to the bank.

ColdAndDark 01-23-2020 09:48 AM

Delta pilots have a nice bonus. But I’m almost positive endeavor pilots get nothing. Maybe if AA didn’t share with their wholly owns the AA pilots would get more. I’ll take something over nothing at eagle. But I’d be ****ed as an AA pilot.

Varsity 01-23-2020 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by ColdAndDark (Post 2962621)
Delta pilots have a nice bonus. But I’m almost positive endeavor pilots get nothing. Maybe if AA didn’t share with their wholly owns the AA pilots would get more. I’ll take something over nothing at eagle. But I’d be ****ed as an AA pilot.

How much smaller would the AA profit sharing be if they had to pay all 5,000 WO pilots endeavor wages? Quite a bit. AAG's entire net income is smaller than DL's profit sharing slice.

ninerdriver 01-23-2020 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by ColdAndDark (Post 2962621)
Delta pilots have a nice bonus. But I’m almost positive endeavor pilots get nothing. Maybe if AA didn’t share with their wholly owns the AA pilots would get more. I’ll take something over nothing at eagle. But I’d be ****ed as an AA pilot.

9E pilots don't get profit sharing. But hey, if you guys are getting 1.4% of your wages from last year... yeah, I'll stick with my $63/hr as an FO here.

THKooj 01-23-2020 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2962677)
9E pilots don't get profit sharing. But hey, if you guys are getting 1.4% of your wages from last year... yeah, I'll stick with my $63/hr as an FO here.

Well, all I can really say is enjoy that GUARANTEED INTERVIEW. Envoy guys can hang out and chill as they wait for their number to come up. Plus a profit sharing bonus that you guys don't get to boot.

Slow2Final 01-23-2020 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2962713)
Plus a profit sharing bonus that you guys don't get to boot.

Taking a look at the year 4 FO payscale (which I imagine would be hard to hit at Envoy due to forced upgrades), at min guarantee, a guy at Endeavor would make $6,300 more in a year than an Envoy guy. How is getting a profit-sharing bonus as an FO gonna outweigh that? You either entirely missed that poster's point, or (my guess), are continuing to live in some alternate reality.

And if you get in at Delta, it's already been proven how much more their pilots make with Delta's profit sharing over American's.

buddies8 01-23-2020 12:29 PM

Forgive hilm he just an envoy scum recruiter

ninerdriver 01-23-2020 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2962713)
Well, all I can really say is enjoy that GUARANTEED INTERVIEW. Envoy guys can hang out and chill as they wait for their number to come up. Plus a profit sharing bonus that you guys don't get to boot.

Envoy guys can hang out and chill for seven to nine years while we at 9E are getting hired at majors three to five years after DOH. Most folks at 9E aren't here for the DGI. It's a tool, not a promise. Would I recommend 9E right now? Probably not. Would I recommend it over Envoy? Absolutely.

​​​I'll skip the $700 profit sharing check in favor of, y'know, wages. Thanks.


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