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-   -   Elogsite is gone forever? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/127221-elogsite-gone-forever.html)

Cyio 02-15-2020 08:31 AM
Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2977488)
I was fairly confident too until the one guy announced that AAG blocked their access. Case and point.

That’s why e log site got kicked out too. Here’s the real solution. How about Envoy publishes our hours from CCI, I think that would solve this whole thing but I’m not holding my breath lol


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The less transparency Envoy management has to give the better in their minds. It serves them to make the pay program here as difficult to understand as possible.

pitchattitude 02-15-2020 08:51 AM
Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2977483)
Pretty sure logging in on our behalf is against the rules. If the site acted simply as an interface with a prompt that you had to enter the details of your login each time, I am fairly confident that is kosher. Much like elogsite, you are required to enter your JetNet credentials each time it pulls new data.
How does QuickBid do it? I thought they do essentially the same thing.

Cyio 02-15-2020 10:00 AM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2977513)
How does QuickBid do it? I thought they do essentially the same thing.
They do but I have a feeling that several day outage last year was partially due to this issue. Perhaps they have secured the transmission of the log in data. I don’t know I’m no expert on that field, just speculation.

UncreativeUser 02-15-2020 12:52 PM
From my understanding, QuickTrade caused an outage that messed up Sabre and QuickTrade was shut down temporarily. Because of this, no more third party apps can access Sabre directly like Quick Trade did. So QT essentially is safe while any other apps will he blocked from accessing Sabre directly.


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dera 02-15-2020 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2977659)
From my understanding, QuickTrade caused an outage that messed up Sabre and QuickTrade was shut down temporarily. Because of this, no more third party apps can access Sabre directly like Quick Trade did. So QT essentially is safe while any other apps will he blocked from accessing Sabre directly.


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nope. Qt is not safe.

Notakeofflaps 02-15-2020 01:00 PM
If you need you hours, email RW. He will provide them.

pitchattitude 02-15-2020 01:47 PM
I heard, can’t remember where, when I was looking for options to log my time a while back, that we could get a file from operations, specifically RN, that had our flight information.

I haven’t pursued this. The big question is if this information is available, either from someone with access inside the company or through accessing SABRE, why can’t we access it ourselves so the third party apps don’t have security issues?

JonSnow 02-15-2020 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2977661)
nope. Qt is not safe.
why QT is not safe?

HalyardJammer 02-15-2020 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by JonSnow (Post 2977766)
why QT is not safe?
Because it was shut down once before and it can again.

MqWhistleblower 02-16-2020 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 2977882)
Because it was shut down once before and it can again.
this company will never shut down QT bc few people know how to pick up OT/trip trade etc. on decs.


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