pitchattitude

Someone more recent can give you guesstimates but it really could change significantly by the time you get on property. The time of year also has a significant impact. Lines increase during summer. If you complete IOE in March or April, not possible now for you now, but you will be starting reserve as the lines start increasing in summer. Finish IOE in November or December, you will be starting reserve as lines are the lowest.

Also keep in mind LGA and MIA are only 145. Any rumors otherwise are just that. Don’t make plans on rumors. That being said, just like reserve time, the truth changes.

Lee 64

Until this last class, all new hire 145 pilots came to LGA. So for the next 2-3 months most of the open flying will go to getting them through consolidation, bc it would cost the company a lot of money if they didn’t.

I should hold a line around May, so about 6-7 months. Chicago is about the same right now for the 145 and Dallas is going to longer

Pedro4President

The past two FOs I went through AQP (annual recurrent training) had really low time. One had less than 200 hours and the other had less than 250 after 10-11 months on property.

You are likely to get the 145. If your most important goal your first year is building time then once you get here you can see the trends and bid accordingly. The numbers you are going to get from everyone is likely going to be vastly different. Suffice it to say you aren’t going to fly as much as you’d like. What you have to ask yourself is are you going to be happy with only building 300, 400, or xxx number of hours your first year.

Final thought- people here aren’t going to lie to you but they do have a tendency to think the experience is the end all be all of Envoy. Unfortunately people have wide ranging experiences at Envoy based on when they got hired here. Just a quick glance through the thread and everything people has said so far seems legit.

Czpilot

yeah, not everyone has experienced the same thing. That’s why I had to asked. All info I was getting was from guys that left or want to leave to other regionals (mostly complains). Also, once you hold a line how many hours do you guys fly ? And if anyone has any recommendation to which base would be better to commute from FLL or MIA would be nice. Thanks

Crimson5

Naturally, I could have commuted to a line in Chicago or NYC. Commute or a line or drive to work for reserve. To me my home time is more valuable than commuting to a line. Granted I got used very little on reserve (on average around 30 hours a month), I got way more time at home than I do now as a line holder.

havick206

Different strokes for different folks. It only fair though to put claims/experiences into context is all, and then they can decide based on the full picture.

Pedro4President

So in late 2017 we hired a massive amount of 145 FOs into ORD. This caused a huge amount of back log and extreme cases of low low hour FOs. Those guys were not flying for 4-6 weeks at a time. Many of them missed consolidation (100 hours in 3-4 months) and had to go back to the school house to retrain. Many of these guys left due to lack of flying and nobody faulted them for it. It’s obviously not as bad now but that’s not to say it could get worse.

Czpilot

Also, can you confirm or anyone in here, if cadet pilots that were hired before me(1500TT part 135)have priority over me when biding for base and airplane ?

pitchattitude

Cadets bid first based on length of time in the program, then prior 121 based on time, then all others based on age. Some 135 and military time counts towards upgrade, but I don’t know that the time counts towards seniority ranking in class for bidding.

flyer2710

Out of my personal experience, New York was not a bad commute from MIA, FLL or PBI. Chicago is hit and miss especially during spring break and whenever school is out. DFW is by far the worst commute out of any South Florida airport. I would not commute there for reserve. However, you might get lucky and will be able to hold Miami in just a few months. Once you upgrade-that’s a different story. You will then see Chicago for a few years before able to hold Miami