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stang 03-19-2020 03:53 PM

So wait, Envoy hiring on hold, likely for some time but all excited about getting the 175's ? My guess is our CP flown AA owned 175's will be parked with a number of the other AA planes being parked. There will unfortunately be a lot of furloughs across all of the 121 world. WO are not safe, regionals of no sort are safe.

dera 03-19-2020 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by stang (Post 3004452)
So wait, Envoy hiring on hold, likely for some time but all excited about getting the 175's ? My guess is our CP flown AA owned 175's will be parked with a number of the other AA planes being parked. There will unfortunately be a lot of furloughs across all of the 121 world. WO are not safe, regionals of no sort are safe.

Let me be perfectly clear about this. We are NOT excited about getting the planes. If you could see our internal facebook pages, you would see nothing but sad faces about what happened to Compass. Thats how our pilots feel about it, except for a few APC trolls.

CLE to IAH 03-19-2020 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by stang (Post 3004452)
So wait, Envoy hiring on hold, likely for some time but all excited about getting the 175's ? My guess is our CP flown AA owned 175's will be parked with a number of the other AA planes being parked. There will unfortunately be a lot of furloughs across all of the 121 world. WO are not safe, regionals of no sort are safe.

“all”?


Filler

stang 03-19-2020 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3004461)
“all”?


Filler

Sorry shouldnt of said all.. I mispoke.

Gone Flying 03-19-2020 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3004287)
Unfortunately, at least in my circles, the average people seem to read that as "all airlines have spent 96% of their profits over the last ten years on stock buybacks." The average response has been "whatever, let them all file for Chapter 11."

We've actually made some serious gains at the regional level over that time span, and I wouldn't be surprised if we give them all back if we don't get some help.

a business can only file CH11 twice. if the legacy's get drug through this again it really would be survival of the fittest after that.

side note this can be mitigated by a merger IE when AA and UsAir merged, keeping the AA name allowed them to go through this again, had the US air name been kept, they already had 2 bankruptcys and CH 11 would not be an option for them

MrAviator180 03-19-2020 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Tomhawker (Post 3004319)
I’d rather fly with an obnoxious j@ck@ss than fly with someone who’s willing to get me fired over a disagreement. Should we set some people on your trail for suggesting such a thing?

Yeah? How about a guy that celebrates other pilots from other companies not having a job?

You can get as upset as you want, but I’ll never be happily “counting down” the day another company’s aircraft show up on property, nor will I smile upon anyone else’s misfortunes. Nice try tho. ;)

MrAviator180 03-19-2020 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Ihateusernames (Post 3004282)
Go get him fired? Do you run to the chief pilot every time someone talks mean to you? Gmab


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Actually I don’t. A lot of the 22-24 year old kids I’ve seen at Envoy are probably a lot quicker to show up to the chief pilot’s office than I. But hey if talking like that on the forum floats your boat, I won’t judge you.

But seriously 03-19-2020 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3004465)
a business can only file CH11 twice. if the legacy's get drug through this again it really would be survival of the fittest after that.

side note this can be mitigated by a merger IE when AA and UsAir merged, keeping the AA name allowed them to go through this again, had the US air name been kept, they already had 2 bankruptcys and CH 11 would not be an option for them

While I’m not a lawyer, I’m going to go out on a limb and question the assertion that the name is what does or does not allow a company to declare bankruptcy.

Also, both UAL and DAL have gone through mergers since their last bankruptcy.

VIRotate 03-19-2020 05:30 PM

Former CPZ guy here. Thank you for calling out the tools and the kind words. Tailwinds to us all in this crazy environment.

highfarfast 03-19-2020 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by VIRotate (Post 3004554)
Former CPZ guy here. Thank you for calling out the tools and the kind words. Tailwinds to us all in this crazy environment.

For what it’s worth, we got an email today indicating our union is trying to arrange for preferential hiring for former Compass pilots. Of course it does little when we aren’t even hiring, but it’s out there. Comments in the email made it sound like management is indifferent at best but there are guys over here trying to throw a lifeline. Hang in there.


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